Best
215 Comments
Post
  • #9
    !
    @No_Bama To clarify, "private duty nurses" are hired by the patient and/or family directly and are not hospital employees.
  • #14
    !
    @DARSB So just to clarify, how exactly would one get intensive care unit care without a hospital?
  • R Load more replies

  • #10
    !
    But whats scary is 38% of people either agreed with this idiot or could understand where he was coming from...truly frightening!
  • #83
    !
    if you dont like it, move to Zimbabwe ASAP. people have a right to choose who touch them.
  • #89
    !
    @thatgirl if gays have the right to marry, people have the right to choose other things as well. i thought you libs were all about a persons right to choose?!?!?!?
  • R Load more replies

  • #7
    !
    I'm guessing a Medicaid patient and we paid for it as taxpayers.

    I'm guessing a patient advocate gave into the request, because no matter how stupid the request the patient advocate always caves. That's the problem with hospitals now. We let patients think the H on the sign outside means hotel and not hospital.

    I think it's wrong she is suing the hospital. I think she should sue the patient or sue the state that allows such BS to go on.
  • #31
    !
    Agreed, the sad thing though, as I'm sure you are well aware of, that bad report from that patient to his friends, family circles affects the hospital worse than two or three good reports.
  • #49
    !
    I think all three should be sued, and as I say that I realize that the hospital will be the only one to pay. If the hospital has administrators that stupid suing them is absolutely appropriate. That man should have been told to remove his child from the Neo-natal ICU and have it transported to a hospital of his choice where is racism would be accommodated. The hospital's kowtowing to blatant hatred is unacceptable.
  • #94
    !
    @kathyparsell
    Unfortunately this will be no different than a Muslim man asking that a male nurse not care for his female infant. Doesn't make it right, but that's what will happen. This nurse will get a nice payout from the hospital and life will go on. The patient most likely is a Medicaid patient and they knew that if they refused care and sent the baby and family to another hospital they would face a larger law suit from the family so they just crapped on the provider instead.

    As I said this is what treating hospital care like it's a hotel stay gets you. Things like this happen all the time in hospitals. The nurse saw dollar signs and will get a payout from it. Would I have been offended by what was in the chart? Yes. Would I have sued because of it? Nope. The staff charted the way it should have been charted that the patients father did not wish for an African American nurse to care for his child. That was the patients wish and was charted in the most PC way possible. I heard a different version of the story where they said someone on staff printed the chart note out and posted it on the staff bulletin board for all to see. If that was the case then yes I would have filed a suit for the staff doing that. Not sure if that part is true or not. The article didn't state if that occurred or not.
  • #97
    !
    @DrNickels
    I am sure you are probably correct. In one sence, I will admitt, my angst over racial issues drives me to want to punish someone. I have no answers for healing the divide I just want it to go away.
  • #29
    !
    I would prefer not to have the nurses that injected high dosages of heparin into babies instead of the flush strength. On that we see eye to eye. ;)
  • #133
    !
    @bsking @OhWiseOne hasn't contributed yet. I do see the nurse being called a "scam artist", and described as an incompetent who owes her job to affirmative action.
  • R Load more replies

  • #26
    !
    I can't blame him. I don't want fat white Conservatives or "Holier than thou" hairy hippy Liberals taking care of my baby either. I should be entitled to my beliefs too!
  • #68
    !
    @AntiPorcheria I'm ok with Wiccan High Priestesses. They tend to believe in being "sky clad" and I'm just ok with that. Most Wiccans I've known were hotties.
  • #71
    !
    @Fishbone345 - Not been my experience. I have a 5'1" female friend that is a real "earth mother" type. Hairy, patchouli over body odor and around 300 lbs. Still, she bakes a mean quiche and would help anyone. But the sky-clad thing......shudddddder.
  • #17
    !
    This really out hospital administrators in a difficult position.
    If the father isn't comfortable with an African-American nurse, it does seem the same as a woman not being comfortable with a male doctor or a man not comfortable with a Gay male nurse.
  • #24
    !
    How would one know that a male nurse was gay unless that nurse was prancing and lisping and flitting about? And even then he might just be an effeminate straight drama queen. Either way I don't want his hands on me because it's my experience that effeminate males are emotional WRECKS and I don't want those kinds of people touching me regardless of who they sleep with.
  • #48
    !
    @jessejaymes
    I had the discussion with a female nurse on here a couple of weeks ago.
    Stereotypes! Some people just assume all male nurses are Gay! Kind of like the assumption re: male flight attendants, male models, waiters, etc....
  • #50
    !
    @jessejaymes
    But it begs the original question; is a person within his rights to request only a White nurse? Anymore than requesting only a male or female attendant?
  • #53
    !
    @Keyjo Well let me answer it this way. I don't care what the law is. For the price hospitals charge you should be able to get a dancing hippo if you want. Are you telling me that if I spend ten thousand dollars on a house party I can't hire who I want without breaking the law? How is a hospital stay any different? It's biased or racially illegal for the hospital to not hire anyone qualified but as a patient you have no say so? I'm not so sure that you don't.
  • #67
    !
    @Keyjo I think that was me, haha! I agree, I think our society has an issue with seeing men as nurses. It makes my job harder to try to please all the patients that refuse a male nurse (which was what influenced my point of view). I've had men and women who don't want a male. I have a good friend who is a male nurse and after working with him on a more regular basis, he has shared a lot of his struggles with his career that involve this issue. He does understand that its part of this career choice to deal with such things, as have I. A patient has a right to refuse care by anyone. I think this father went about it the wrong way. He could have stated that he didn't want that particular nurse because he wasn't comfortable with her. He didn't have to make a big deal out of her race. However, I do agree that patients should be able to refuse whoever they want.
  • R Load more replies

  • #15
    !
    This is one of those things I suspect I now how the courts will rule but I have been wrong before. I'll be the first to admit I don't like Filipino nurses and East Indian doctors. Why? The come from a culture that seems to think we're all sissies and we need to suck it up because in their country suffering is tolerated on a daily basis. Are there exceptions? I'm sure there are but I've never met one. Following facial reconstruction surgery a Filipino nurse told me I was not in "that much pain" and I needed to just stop bugging her about it. I reported her since I hadn't seen anyone for over 4 hours while lying in that thousand dollar a day uncomfortable bed.
  • #25
    !
    When I was in labor, the OB/GYN (who was white and female) that subbed for my OB/GYN, who was nowhere to be found on Christmas Day, but I digress....anyway the doc told me that I wasnt in that much pain, either....my husband told her she had just made a HUGE mistake. I looked at her and asked he if she had ever been in labor. Of course she said no, I told her to STFU and to find another OB/GYN, as she was not going to be allowed near me. Long story short, uncompassionate medical pros come in all colors.
  • #32
    !
    @thatgirl I'm sure they do. And I would have reacted just as you did. I'm simply relating personal experiences and I've unfortunately never met an East Indian doctor or Filipino nurse that had a lick of compassion. As I stated I'm sure there are exceptions and I haven't met them all but I'm not interested in dealing with them further. It doesn't matter what the conditions are in there home country are. They are HERE and they need to get with the HERE program.
  • #19
    !
    While I disagree with your position on this particular individuals "right to choose" who touches his child, I agree that the law suit is against the wrong person. The only reason they are suing the hospital is because the hospital probably has more money than the individual that made the request.
  • #21
    !
    @AntiPorcheria That and the fact that she would have no legal grounds for suing the discriminating patient.
  • #36
    !
    @AntiPorcheria Ok then, on what legal grounds could she sue a private citizen? She wasn't denied service, housing, employment, and she wasn't assaulted or killed because of her race. In what way did he violate the civil rights act? Last time I checked freedom of opinion was still a Costitutionally guaranteed right.
  • #61
    !
    Race/Color Discrimination & Harassment

    It is unlawful to harass a person because of that person’s race or color.

    Harassment can include, for example, racial slurs, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's race or color, or the display of racially-offensive symbols. Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

    The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

    http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/race_color.cfm

    IMO: I could make the case that the individual in question displayed a known "hate speech" symbol as his reasoning for requesting that no "black" nurses touch his child.

    This action would be in direct violation of:

    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)
    Sections 102 and 103 of the Civil Rights Act of 1991

    However it is common that most people with this type of racist mentality have little to nothing to lose in a law suit. That is why the lawyers go after the weak-kneed hospital administrator that has big pockets.
  • R Load more replies

  • #8
    !
    Why shouldn't he be allowed to chose who cares for his child? No matter what the person's race is, if he feels the person isn't qualified to to provide medical care to his child, that's his choice.
  • #22
    !
    The nurse had to pass the same test as every other nurse employed by that hospital. She is just as trained, just as licensed, and just as insured. And my personal suspicion is the father is middle eastern, because they DO have such prejudices, whether we like it or not.
  • #28
    !
    @Realthinker I'm sure I'll be called racist for this but here goes...

    Your statement is completely true, but I've got 2 word for you - affirmative action. People that are being hired because of their race to fill a quota, not because of their qualifications. I'm not saying that this particular nurse isn't qualified or that the racist patient was right, but there are big implications here with this issue.
  • #35
    !
    @Realthinker "And my personal suspicion is the father is middle eastern, because they DO have such prejudices, whether we like it or not."
    I hadn't realized that Middle Easterners were joining the various Neo Nazi groups around the country. Is there some movement I'm unaware of in which radical extremist Muslims connect philosophically with White Supremacists?
  • R Load more replies

  • #214
    !
    I agree that competence and quality of care is what matters to ME and most others but the bottom line is that the hospital had an obligation to the patients and once the parents made the request(no matter whether they agreed with it or not), they needed to honor it.
  • #210
    !
    I feel that if it is the patient's request, and it can be fulfilled without putting great strain on the staff, it should be fulfilled. I mean, if the patient was of a particular faith and needed/wanted a nurse of that faith only, there would not be such an outcry or lawsuit.
  • #208
    !
    Personally, I think that if I was the hospital's administrator, I would have asked the Complaining Father to call for an ambulance and have his child removed immediately and brought to another hospital of his choice where the administrative staff could accomodate his wishes. I doubt very much that he'd have been successful in his attempts, but it shows that he has very little compassion for others in this country, and perhaps he doesn't even care about the TRUE WELL BEING of his child?
  • #207
    !
    NOT to be a nit picker, but I've heard of and met many "born again Christians," and I give them credit for having taken that step, but does anyone know of a group that is called "Born Again Idiots?" This guy who is complaining of other than a caucasian caring for his baby, apparently has his priorities all mixed up. I personally wouldn't care if a Purple Space Alien oversaw that health of one of my loved ones as long as that person was intelligent enough to save that patient's life.
    Jim
  • #206
    !
    The guy is an idiot but it is his kid and he should have the right to choose who administers to that kid.
  • #205
    !
    it is extremely racist,but I would expect that kind of request from a white supremist,etc.-It is very ignorant.I think the patient has the right however,they are paying for a service,to choose their provider.it doesn't have to be just African American racism.i suppose those that despise Muslims may object to a muslim doctor touching them.its really stupid,but we don't want to learn about the benefits of all human beings seeing each other as one and getting along.until then,we will continue to suffer the consequences of being divided,instead of together, as one massive,powerful voice against the elite.so much for "enemies unite"
  • R Load more comments...
Post