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    It isn't discrimination when safety is an issue. Too heavy for the table? Too bad. Go elsewhere. Too short to ride the ride? Too bad. Go elsewhere. Too big to fit in the movie seat? Too bad. Go elsewhere. Too big to fit out your front door? Call Oprah. But for Christs sake not everything is discrimination. Sometimes it just sucks.
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    She said the table had issues with a 165lb guy. If that's the case, then she needs a new table. Proportionally, 250lbs isn't that big if you're 6'3.
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    @methinks - Good point. However, I have to wonder how big/strong the masseuse is. If she's a petite 130 pounds then lugging around a table rated for 250 lbs would be difficult.
    I weigh in at 275 and while I enjoy a good massage now and then, I would be very hesitant to put my weight and the force of the masseuse on some of the portable tables that I have seen. If her table had issues with a 165lb guy then she's probably not a very high end masseuse. Sounds as if the masseuse needs to upgrade and the big girl needs to find another masseuse. Like I said before, sometimes it just sucks.
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    @AntiPorcheria I posted a link elsewhere on this thread where a portable massage table is rated at 800lbs working, and 3200 lbs stationary. If she was having issues with a table with the 165lb man on it, then there was probably a serious problem with that table.

    Again, in terms of proportions, 250lbs on a 6'3" frame is not that big. I have 200lbs on a 5'7" frame with a 32" waist. No one EVER guesses I weigh as much as I do. The most I ever get is in the 175-180lb range. Muscle weighs more than fat. She said she just ran a marathon, so she must be in some kind of shape. Wouldn't you agree?
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    @methinks - I agree that muscle weighs more than fat, however I don't assume she's in great shape (from her picture and statement). My point is that if the masseuse has a problem or poor equipment or whatever, every business owner has the right to refuse anyone for any reason. She felt her equipment wouldn't hold this lady. Give her the benefit of the doubt. Would it be better to let her collapse the table and get injured? Or take her money and give her an unsatisfactory experience?

    I'm a tall, big guy. Portable tables come in various ratings and I wouldn't trust any of them. When I go get a steam and a rub-down I go to a place that has bolted, stainless tables with long, solid tops.(It's a private, weight lifting and fitness establishment.) She can choose where she goes, but she can't choose how she feels about herself. The masseuse has nothing to benefit in any way by insulting this gal. And I have had my share of small people (men and women) that couldn't take care of my massage needs. I would rather someone didn't waste my time and money and was honest rather than let me relax, fall and get hurt or not be able to hit the deep muscles satisfactorily. Then again, I don't have female body issues. ;)
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    Obesity is not a race, a religion, a gender or a sexual orientation. Now you liberals are going to legislate that masseuses HAVE TO massage obese people they don't want to massage? Where does it end in America? Do people with Herpes get to infect everyone they want just because?
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    @Zazziness You know I try to be tolerant of both sides beliefs and ask myself "are they right on this one?". But today alone you have defended the obese at every turn while saying "yes it is a problem but we shouldn't be penalizing the obese" FOR ANYTHING. They penalize me. Why shouldn't they be penalized. They drive up the cost of health Care. The AMA ALSO says obesity is the single most responsible issue for the rise in health care. Airline tickets cost for to get this fat ass nation off the ground. Look it up. Food buffets are more expensive because of the MONSTER amounts the obese eat. And now you even want to regulate masseuses that they have to accommodate the Obese. You say "there are other ways" to reduce Obesity. What in the world "other ways" do you have in mind since you clearly want to accommodate the obese at the expense of everyone else in every possible situation? What exactly would motivate an obese person to lose weight under your total obesity accommodation platform?
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    After my wife died and I was sitting around moping with all the kids grown and gone, one day my two daughters show up at the house. "Dad we need to talk. You are getting FAT and it's not healthy for you to be like this. We love you and we can't lose you too this soon.". They offered to help any way I wanted but they would not take no for an answer. The literally shamed and guilt tripped me into losing weight. It really wasn't that hard once I got started. Kept it off for almost 5 years now. We are the fattest nation in the world. We didn't used to be until the liberals took over back in the 1980's and decided "big is beautiful" and "it's hurts the self esteem of fat people to notice it". Now today we are the fattest nation in the world. We have epidemics of diabetes, heart disease and obesity related disease. obesity is the number one preventable killer in America. It's time for some tough love for this country. It's time to stop saying fat is fine. Because it's not.
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    So....your girls kinda had a "fat" intervention? At least did they bring a pan of Lasagna to this "meeting".......lol. IMO, it's great that your kids cared enough to want their Dad around to enjoy his Grandkids.....sounds like they love their Dad! Very much.
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    Voted yes, but this is not discrimination, if their response was "we don't massage fat people because their gross" then that would be discrimination
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    I'm very surprised the tables aren't rated for weight in the first place. (In fact, I'm suspicious. I'll bet they are.) And it seems very odd to me a masseuse wouldn't be able to handle a 250lb man, so if it turned out to be sheer prejudice that's the real reason, it would make more sense.
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    I thought so. I was curious so I Googled "portable massage tables." The very cheapest one I found -- not one a professional would use -- was rated for 700 pounds. So the masseuse was full of bs about the reasons, IMHO.
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    Yeah, something seemed off on this. I understand weight being an issue, and maybe it has something to do with straining the worker in moving the customer as they don't want the customer to do it his/herself. However, like you, I thought the table could handle a ton (pun intended) more weight. I think the owner is just an idiot. Great chance for someone to open a parlor nearby that caters to people up to 300 (or more) pounds.
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    @Zazziness that sounded suspicious to me too. 250 is not that unheard of a weight, especially someone 6'3".
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    Ugh....okay....pressed the wrong button....yes it should be against the law....but would anyone want to give a deep tissue massage to Nancy Pelosi? Rush Limbaugh?
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    @jamie91 Yeah, at 6'3 and 250, she wouldn't be that big at all! And if her table failed for a 165lb man, then her table was faulty, because that's average weight. If you get a guy whose 6'1 and 200, then I guess she couldn't handle that as well.

    This masseuse needs to be bitched slapped!
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    This is just me speaking as a big person, but if someone does not want to give me a massage, professional or not, because of my weight. It is their right to decide so and my civil duty to respect that despite how it may effect my mood or how much i want a massage. Not to mention we large people are more prone to causing property damage. In other words if your too big for something do not get mad when someone tells you that you are, just go loose the weight if that is what you want and if not find someone who doesn't care how big you are if your paying.
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    Nothing should be done simply because of this story.
    Something smells.
    There's more to this than we're being told.

    Per FAA Advisory Circular (AC-120-27D)-
    Average adult male passenger weight: 200 lb
    Average adult female passenger weight: 179 lb
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    Just maybe the masseuse was trying to be tactful and avoid coming right out and saying she/he didn't like massaging obese people. I sure as hell wouldn't. There are masseuses that will only massage males or only females. That's not illegal. I wouldn't want to touch Nancy Pelosi or John Boehner. Has it come to this in America? Nobody has any rights to say no to anything. Is that what it amounts to?
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    from this online advert i believe that the 'weak tables' argument is a weak excuse.

    http://www.naturalhealingdenver.com/
    http://www.groupon.com/biz/aurora-co/natural-...

    XXXXXXXX, OMD brings a wealth of experience to her treatments. Having studied acupuncture orthopedics and korean hand therapy under master practitioners, the licensed acupuncturist and doctor of oriental medicine draws on myriad therapeutic techniques to tailor needling sessions to individual needs. She’s joined by massage therapists who also pluck from various modalities—including Swedish and deep-tissue—to soothe knotted muscles within pristine treatment rooms. Whether treating chronic pain, anxiety, or a weeklong case of the Mondays, Dr. Wells and her staff work with them to design the most effective holistic treatment plans.

    an interesting link to customer comments.
    http://www.yelp.com/biz/natural-healing-cente...
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    This is very sad! They can make tables to hold up the weight of those who are heavy. I'm not a heavy person but, if I were to become a masseuce I would not turn heavy?over weight people away. I would make sure my tables could handle the weight. They need tratments just like anyone else & should be able to get relaxed & destressed.
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    I believe everyone has the right to refuse service to anyone, however in this line of work you are doing diservice to your clients when tables colaps under the weight of a 165 pound man. Better cowboy up them tables!
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    It may not be a matter of discrimination at all. It's very difficult to give a massage to a morbidly obese person. Hell it's even very difficult to even give them an ultra-sound!
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    You know i had to make a second post on this and it is going to be a really mean thing. The woman weights 250lbs, drop the freaking cheeseburger and reach for the salad fork!
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    Insensitive yes, discriminative no. I do doubt that those tables lack heavy weight ratings though. I'd find more professional pasture and never go there again. I would also tell this story to others when ever appropriately possible, make sure you name the business and the specific masseuse. That's all that can really be done.
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