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    What's the problem? Either it can be conclusively proven (which is has NOT been to date) or it is a matter of opinion. I have heard for almost 30 years that DE would be under water by now, we aren't (neither is our home in SC BTW), if that was wrong, if all that hysteria was incorrect, if the polar caps have NOT melted as predicted, what else did they get wrong. What are the tree huggers afraid of? That they may be proven wrong? Climate Change is just the new religion for the old "New Age" believers.
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    Why not do even a tiny bit of research before you put forth so many errors in a row?
    "The polar ice caps have melted faster in last 20 years than in the last 10,000. A comprehensive satellite study confirms that the melting ice caps are raising sea levels at an accelerating rate."
    http://www.dw.de/polar-ice-sheets-melting-fas...
    "Definitive study links polar ice cap melting to climate change"
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/29/definit...
    The rest of your post is the same -- not motivated or substantiated by anything but partisanship.
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    @Zazziness They were supposed to be GONE years ago, that was wrong, the north pole did melt some, on one side at least, yet the south pole actually got larger. See, it all depends on which "study" you look at and believe. And your "errors" are actually just something that contradicts something YOU believe, not really an error, simply a difference of opinion and different fact checking, so leave the insults aside, they add nothing to the conversation. Or, keep them up if you must, but then I will get bored and go away to another topic.(Barbie's Rule #1 - leave them wanting more.) The Worshipers of Climate Change (had to even change that from Global Warming) will always believe that we (humans) are to blame for any change in the climate, some long buried sense of guilt over having a good life or something, but in reality, and according to other scientific study, the earth's climate has been changing for eons, cold, hot, cold, hot. Remember (and I have said this many times and have yet to get an answer from any of the "Believers") the "Little Ice Age" - it started around 1400 and ended about 400 years later. And we got warm which was way better than not being able to grow crops where we had formerly been able to. The effects of the little ice age and it's resultant lack of places to grow food and raise herds of whatever, was a factor in the French Revolution. No food, no food available and no place to grow it, it also resulted in a grain based agriculture that could be grown in the new cooler temperatures. So, tell me, just what human error caused that?
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    No, the polar ice was not supposed to gone years ago. It takes centuries to melt Greenland and many thousands of years to melt Antarctica. Sea level has risen 8 inches on average over the past century, and it will continue to rise as the Earth warms. Your expectation of what to expect has been manipulated by folks whose job it is to confuse you. The only reliable source of science information is the peer-reviewed literature and those vetted publications and institutions you can trust to interpret it for you. Where you get your information matters.
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    @Zazziness LOL - Zazzi, I could if I wanted, it's just not worth the effort with you, you wouldn't believe them no matter what, so not going to bother. Let me know when you get that objective transplant, I'll inundate you with links, gladly.
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    "the teaching of certain scientific topics, such as climate science, may be controversial"

    Actually, it's a legislature made up of non-scientist persons with variable educational backgrounds deciding it can define a scientific controversy that strikes me as "controversial".
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    You're right about what makes up controversial, but as long as there's a political spin to this "science", it's appropriate to question the motivations and "conclusions".
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    @LGRepublican Initially, perhaps. But it has been well over a decade. Evidence and scientific consensus have steadily grown till now it is well past time to move forward. We should be talking about sensible ways to respond and/or deal with it by now. Thank goodness, a lot of people are doing that.
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    @LGRepublican There is definitely a role for politics to play here, but not by meddling with the science. The political question isn't about the validity of the IPCC report or the climate change algorithms, it's how we mitigate the effects of climate change. We can do something now or wait 50 years and evacuate Manhattan. Either way, a politician somewhere will have to make a decision.
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    @DARSB you know, i really wish that i could type interobangs on these threads because i'd really like to say, WHAT, A POLITICIAN MAKE A DECISION?! are you off your dot?
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    Think Progress and George Soros should have absolutely no say whatsoever in what children are taught about climate change and economics. Kansas should ignore Think Progress entirely.
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    @PNWest Kansas should ignore the junk science peddled by Think Progress and other Soros groups. If they want their children well educated, that is.
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    @PNWest How about this: We don't know how the earth was formed, but all this harmony didn't not just explode into being one day. We really don't know when either; we may never know. The North thought they were fighting to free the slaves, the South was more concerned with states rights. That's a fact and the question has not really been settled. I have posted a great deal of information here about the flawed and altered science of "climate change". If your mind is closed to the science that shows it isn't happen at least give others the opportunity to see the facts.
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    @Realthinker No - how about this... The Universe was formed about 13.8 Billion years ago, the Earth is about 4 billion years...(see a real science book for the rest).... The Civil War was all about slavery (see a real history book about this).... Somewhere around 97% or so of climate scientists believe that man is responsible for the climate changes we have ween in the last 100 years or so. All of the science items are subject to change upon new evidence being found that contradicts existing beliefs.
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    Critical thinking is missing in the Sea of Social Engineering and Thought Manipulation in our Schools. Responsible American Parents don't want kids taught anyones political agenda!
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    I agree. I'm not so sure we just accidentally came into existence with no plan and no purpose. I couldn't stand to see my children taught they were just lucky accidents. We were created with purpose and a plan. Once the scourge of obama is gone from the White House it will be revealed the purpose of mankind.
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    They already did.

    "The great Kansas debate over teaching evolution continues to, well, evolve.

    Consider Jack Wu, candidate for the Kansas state Board of Education. Perhaps the most relevant qualification on his bio is that he attends the Westboro Baptist Church. That's the one that stages protests at soldiers' funerals, saying God is punishing the U.S. for homosexuality. "

    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/30/natio...

    Unfortunately, their stupidity is consistent.
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    LOL, they tried but it didn't quite work out for them:

    Evolution opponents lose control of Kansas school board
    usatoday30.usatoday.com/.../2006-08-01-kansas... ...
    Aug 1, 2006 – As a result of the vote, board members and candidates who...... pro-evolution Republican Jana Shaver picked off a conservative incumbent and won ... a more conservative Democrat who favored the anti-evolution language.
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    Anyone that's out of the 5th grade knows that the climate is going to change whether we like it or not, but as a follower of science myself, questioning is necessary. Now, the pro-climate change people are not about nature, they're about man made climate change, which in itself begs to be questioned. There is NO conclusive evidence supporting man-made climate change.
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    The "man made" climate change theory cannot be conclusively proven. Too many flaws in the reasoning and too many forms of misinformation floating around out there plus they ignore the natural cycles that are inherent in the solar system and our sister planets.

    The "natural" climate change has much more scientific hard evidence, but is totally ignored by the "man made" crowd or dismissed out of hand. However those furthering the "natural" side dismiss the impact (to whatever degree) that human beings have had on this planet.

    IF there were a truly independent and unified conclusion drawn by respected fellows in their field and supported unilaterally as undeniable science that made THIS planet fluctuate in temperature dramatically AND was significantly different than the "natural" rises and falls of our sister planets, then the entire world would be forced to see the truth of the results.

    But the fact is that neither side can prove conclusively. Conclusive for their side and their peers, yes. But overwhelming facts of Science that destroy argument? No.

    IMO: Each class, order, family, genus and species that has significantly populated on this planet has left an indelible mark on our planet before fading into history. Ours will be the great mountains, rivers and plains of concrete and tar without the planet giving us the least concern.

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    @culinary You're right, no one's "proved it". All science has done is provide evidence that temps have risen, ice caps have melted, temp fluctuations are happening, random record storms are prevailing......etc. Scientist's educated guesses are much more logical then my uneducated denial......
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    @Zazziness LOL - What are yours? Scientific "Theory" is simply that, a computer workup of certain facts and hypothesis to get a desired result. Usually the desired result of the group providing the grant. Or, in plain English, Garbage In - Garbage Out.
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    Climate change can and will be debated until we no longer have one. Being from Kansas, I know this first hand. Truth is, some people will just never be convinced. The only plus side to legislation like this that kids will be exposed to thinking about their environment, and can only hope that realize the importance of taking care of the only home they will ever know - earth.
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    State Legislatures are increasingly concerning themselves with micromanaging even the smallest details of our daily lives. A real 'educator' will see to it that students are becoming informing as to opposing/conflicting theories rather than indoctrinating them on the theory favored depending on which part of the country one resides.
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    Anyone else feel like they may be living in the prequel to Idiocracy? Legislators trying to promote ignorance?
    Remember in Wizard of Oz when Kansas represented reality? That book would read different if it was written today.
  • #114
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    The ones peddling misinformation are the climate change absolutists. Every bit of scientific evidence they have produced has been massively doctored to fit their agenda. If they were honest for a change then maybe everyone would look at their case. In reality, no credible evidence exists, only anecdotes.
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    And what possible benefit could they get from spreading this so-called 'lie'?? Oh wait, let me guess - it's a form of mind control?? The Illuminati is involved too?? You say that their scientific evidence is 'doctored'. Well where's you're proof??
  • #107
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    Climate change should be questioned!! It's about time we had some rational thinking. So sick of listening to the likes of Fat ass Gore and his crew like he rewrote the Holy Bible and his word was the last word when it was all about the Almighty dollar for him anyway!!
  • #92
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    Reminds me of "Global Warming". It is just another scare tracts to create another sucker of tax payers money. Feel the vacume on your wallet it is the government
  • #62
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    Climate change is a natural occurrence that has happened throughout the earths history. The question is, how much is man made and it seems like the left and the pro-climate change crowd want to say most/all without acknowledging that it is a natural process that can not be stopped and most happen.
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    "... the pro-climate change crowd want to say most/all [is due to man's influence.] Please recall that "the pro-climate change crowd" includes the vast majority of the world's scientific experts on the subject. And even if it can't be stopped, we should certainly be discussing how we will respond to the changes.
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    @zachsquatch We love human life. That's why we would opposed Bush's needless war in Iraq and why we would like to see reasonable gun control. Just look at the mounting toll of gun related deaths since the Newtown gun massacre..... http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi... Over 2000 people have died by gun violence since then. Tragic. Why do conservatives want to see more of this?
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