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    At least with this book he can't get the facts wrong like he did in all of his previous books because this one will be pure fiction based on a fictional character and a fictional life.
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    Only proves you never read any of them. Just the MediaMatters Crib notes. Pretty comical. Oh yes In one instance, the book claims Ford's Theatre was burned down in 1863 when it was actually destroyed in the end of 1862. Oh such a tragic error !!!!!
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    I think there are some historical records that he did exist, though you're right about everything else.
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    @AceLuby Actually there are no historical records at all to prove that Jesus existed. The only evidence is in the Bible and that is like saying that Harry Potter is real because it's in a book of fiction. Jesus's story is historical because he's a religious figure just like Zoroaster, Attis, Mithra, Osiris, Horus, Dionysus, Krishna and the hundreds of other charlatan man/gods that all supposedly existed before he supposedly existed that his story is derived from. Trying to argue that Jesus existed is the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence routine. Since no historian recorded any of his supposed deeds or recorded anything about a following of this man that supposedly healed the sick, brought sight to the blind and raised the dead then we have nothing to go on except blind faith which by definition is the removal of logical thought and reason in lieu of a desire to believe something that cannot be proven. Did Jesus exist? Probably not but if a guy did exist named Jesus that lead the Apostles then he was nothing more than a trickster whose fictional life is used to justify all the evil that small minded individuals do.
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    It is nice to see someone write something about Jesus Christ rather than the multitudes of insults from the Liberal left on comedy shows, movies, etc. The Liberals in the Democrat party have been trying to censor all mention of Christ from our schools, from our Government buildings, from our dollar bill, etc. They fear a faith in God because that is competition for their agenda of controlling our children's minds with political correctness. The kind of correctness where Government allows late term abortions and even forces us to pay for it. A Government that singles out the Gay agendas and constantly gives them special mention. You would think there are no other groups in this nation being insulted. A Government that twists the constitution constantly to further their agendas. We just had a supreme court justice change the words of Obamacare to find a way to get it passed. Our children are being killed by insane people and what do the Democrats try to do? Take our guns because the gun is the only weapon of death they don't like. These people are truly scary activists with the power of the left wing media on their side.
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    Jesus was a radical liberal, an unemployed itinerant preacher who healed the needy for free. He said nations which do not feed the hungry, house the stranger and visit the prisoner are nations he doesn't want to know. He could have turned to the sword and advocated violent revolution but he definitely did not do so. I feel that American conservatives often fail to take Jesus' own sermons into account. Maybe it's because if they actually believed the things he taught, they'd have to adjust their attitudes.
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    @Zazziness LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, I will not waste my time with such hogwash! Yeh, Jesus would have supported Mary's right to kill him in the womb.
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    @commonsense51 He wouldn't have supported the death penalty; you may recall a famous incident where he stopped the crowd from lawfully stoning a prostitute to death. He blessed the meek, the peaceful and the suffering in his open Sermon on the Mount. He told the rich man to give away all his possessions if he really wanted to follow God. He told his disciples they shouldn't worry about how they would eat tomorrow because God takes care of things. Jesus was a mystic who didn't care about how long we live in this world half so much as he cared that we live in a good way so that our true, eternal life is in heaven -- all points that American conservatives can't stand. Seriously, have you read his sermons? I think you would hate what he has to say.
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    @Zazziness As usual don't address how Jesus thinks of abortion. What planet do you live on to think Liberals care for anyone but their own re election and their Socialist agenda. Compassionate Liberals? They fought tooth and nail to keep Partial birth abortions legal even after the GOP allowed life of mother exceptions. COMPASSION? Their compassion for the welfare people is their vote. If it were not for those poor people supporting the Liberal Socialist ideology and big Government control, Liberals would care as much about poor people as they do about late term Babies. The GOP has compassion for the truly needy who can not help themselves. The GOP expect able bodied people to find JOBS after 5 years. They don't like dead beats stealing welfare money from the truly needy. The GOP has compassion for those around the world who live underneath dictators who butcher the people.
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    @commonsense51 We can't know what Jesus would have thought of abortion -- he said nothing about it. We do know that Jewish priests at the time performed a sort of abortion. If a woman was accused of infidelity, she was given "bitter waters" which was an abortifant. If she miscarried, she was judged to have been unfaithful.
    As for GOP "compassion" for the poor? Jesus didn't say we should have compassion only for those who cannot help themselves. He said we should love everyone as much as we love ourselves. It's a tough order to follow but because he said it, we can be sure he wouldn't be calling anyone a "deadbeat."
    Seriously, read Jesus' sermons. I don't think you'll like them because you're going to find the things he actually said were very liberal. Remember, one of his last acts was to forgive an admitted "deadbeat" thief who was being executed. Would today's American conservatives approve of that? No.
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    I am dumbfounded by the statement, "his life as a flesh-and-blood man and his death created the world in which we live." You have got to be kidding me. Science and the industrial revolution created the modern world. If anything religion has held back and continues to hold back progress.
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    But it DID create the world in which we live. Just imagine the world without churches sucking up billions of dollars every year. We wouldn't have had the Inquisition. People might have believed Galileo a lot sooner. There wouldn't have been those lovely witch hunts. The temples of Aesculap , Aphrodite and the Heliopolis might not have been destroyed. Millions of people from Turks to Saxons to Gaelic Irish to Jews and Muslims might not have been viciously murdered for refusing to believe in Christianity.
    Without Christianity we wouldn't have had the Crusades. The Torquemada would have had nothing to do. University professors wouldn't have died for teaching their students science. There wouldn't have been towns sacked, women raped and men murdered. Inquisitors wouldn't have been able to get satisfaction from sexually torturing women and children in the name of God.

    Just imagine all we would have missed out on had it not been for Jesus. No, I take that back. Had it not been for religious leaders' who exploited Jesus for power and money, just as they do today.
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    Actually without believers you'd have NO western civilization....
    In fact if you notice....as we get away from those roots of christianity....we're drifting more and more toward an oppresive police state....
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    @Knightmare There would have been western civilization sooner absent the dogmatic, suppressive hold the church held over the people . The world had to for the end to the dark ages and the free exchange of ideas which promoted the Renaissance era before the new world could be discovered and explored. And, no I don't see the U.S. drifting toward a police state. Life has never been better for more people than in the era we live in. We will pay for it in other ways if we don't wise up, but a police state is not one of my concerns.
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    @Russell797 Wow....I mean....just wow....how much has the brainwashing of the progressive liberals damaged this country....and revisionist history....
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    O'Reilly: "His teachings, his legacy, his life as a flesh-and-blood man and his death created the world in which we live."
    So, according to O'Reilly, not ONLY was it Jesus, not "God", that "created the world in which we live" but that "world" is a Jewish, peace loving, poor exalting, rich man disparaging, anti-material-possessions, anti-violence, anti-retaliatory, give not ONLY your shirt but your coat AS WELL to the less fortunate individual, pay your due taxes, LOVE YOUR ENEMY, AND respect the environment kind of place! WOW! Fully ALL the things that O'Reilly and ALL the other ultra-right-wing-conservative- "Christian"-GOP-Tea Party 'followers' PROMOTE, ASCRIBE to, and TEACH by EXAMPLE!
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    Everyone of his books have been on the Best seller list. I really liked Killing Lincoln. ( :
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    @Penn1699 I'll have to watch...I'm a big fan of his...never used to be, he has such a
    big ego, but I guess if you can back it up, it's okay with me. Also, his proceeds go
    to the Wounded Warrior Project and I am a supporter of that. God Bless our Veterans.(:
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    @AceLuby I like Pat Caddell. Hunter Thompson. I read bill Clinton's book. I don't agree with him but I have him a couple hrs and read his book.
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    @NTBFW Yeah, I don't read political writers, so I was curious... wouldn't really consider Hunter S. as a 'liberal writer', but more of a good fiction writer who had some liberal views.
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    @NTBFW I believe Hunter S. Thompson was more a libertarian. "When he ran for local public office on a libertarian platform in the 70s he found himself up against a crew-cut Republican. Thompson duly shaved his own head and then referred to his Republican rival as 'my long-haired opponent'." source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/2005/feb/22/le...
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    http://www.xenos.org/classes/papers/doubt.htm

    The resurrection of Christ is central to the Christian faith. Without it, there is no Christianity. Paul says, "if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain" (I Cor:15:14). Paul who was a vigorous persecutor of the church before seeing the risen Christ maintains that Jesus did rise from the dead. In writing to the Corinthian church he says,

    [F]or I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas [Peter], then to the twelve. After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep [died]; then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; and last of all ... He appeared to me also.
    (I Cor 15:3-8)

    What he is telling his readers is that many people saw Jesus after the resurrection. He is saying, "if you are skeptical you can go and speak with them yourselves because most of them are still alive!" Paul is so confident of what he and the others saw that he is willing to stake everything on this claim. This was not an event that occurred to a few men in a remote location. It happened in a huge metropolitan city and there were many witnesses to verify it.
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    http://www.xenos.org/classes/papers/doubt.htm

    How do we know anything historically? There is no "scientific" proof that Lincoln was the president. We cannot recreate him in a laboratory or bring him back to life. We cannot reproduce the experiment. We cannot calculate an equation that tells us that he was. But we can assert with a high degree of probability that Lincoln was indeed our president and was assassinated in 1865. We do this by appealing to historical evidence. Many people saw Lincoln. We have some of his writings and even his picture, not to mention his likeness on our pennies. But none of this "proves", in a scientific sense, that Lincoln ever lived or was the president.

    The kind of evidence used in historical research is the same kind as that used in a court of law. In a courtroom case certain kinds of evidences are appealed to in order to determine what exactly happened, eyewitnesses are questioned, motives are examined, and physical evidence is scrutinized such as fingerprints or journal writings.

    It is the same kind of evidence that we appeal to in order to establish Christ's life, death, and resurrection. Granted, the evidence is not as great as that for Lincoln, nor as recent. But it is better evidence than we have that Plato ever lived, or Homer, or many historical figures that we take for granted.
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    There never has been a god. There is no god now. There never will be a god. That being said the book should do well in america and other places full of ignorance and superstition.
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    I will probably check it out when my local library gets a copy. If one is really interested in the story of Jesus' trial and crucifixion you should check 'Who Killed Jesus?' by John Dominic Crossan.

    Crossan is widely considered an expert on First Century Palestine and the Historical Jesus. The book examines whether the roots of anti semitism lie in the biblical story of Jesus' death.
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    Celebrity info-tainer is a good description of him. On par w/ Stephen Colbert, all fluff and opinion masquerading as some bastardization of news. Will never support the man or anyone like him.
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