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  • #12
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    To all you political mental midgets. I want to keep my gun because I want to keep my F-ing gun, is that simple enough for you ALL to understand?
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    There you have it. Amen, glory hallelujah, Ali Ali akbur or ali baba and the 40 thieves (whichever comes first)
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    Unfortunately, we've also got a lot of folks who think their interpretation of Christian law should replace the Constitution and they're often the ones most adamant that they have to keep their guns. It's disturbing.
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    Oh yeah let's try an interpretation of muslim law....hmmm let's chop off some hands....let's chop off some heads. Yep that will do it. By the way it's either bushes fault it the Christians fault. Lets blame the Christians.

    Yeah we should keep our guns. Unless you would like to live under muslim leadership. If you would like the muslim rule, then you would find guns in Christians hands disturbing.

    America has always been about guns and Christian leadership. I find it disturbing that people would want to change it.
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    @kyrebel I find guns in the hands of theocrats disturbing and I'm under no illusions that fundamentalist Christians are any less oppressive or violent than fundamentalist Muslims. They share their fanaticism. Your view that America "has always been about guns and Christian leadership" is way off-base and the fact you believe it illustrates the point I made was true.
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    @Zazziness well I don't know how it is for everyone. Here in my part of Kentucky it's about hunting, fishing, going to work, going to church on Sunday, and believing in God. So if that makes me some evil fundamentalist Christian, then oh well. I guess the next time my church gets together and everyone brings a dish of food. And we all sit around and laugh and tell old stories about when we was younger. Then have prayer before our meal.

    I'll just think of how evil and corrupt, my Christian brothers and sisters and myself are. I'll try to work on not being a Christian fundamentalist.
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    @kyrebel I'm sure fanatical Muslims also love their families and enjoy sharing meals with their friends. I'm sure they have hobbies and jobs and interests that are perfectly innocuous. And as long as either group in America keeps their religion out of our laws, I have no complaints.
    But as soon as you try to convert everyone in the country by replacing our Constitution with your religious laws, you're a danger no matter which religion you are following.
    (FYI, on the subject of "guns and Christianity" in America -- did you know that many of the Christian groups which first came to America were adamant pacifists because of their Christianity? Don't assume you speak for all Christians. Not by a long shot, no pun intended.)
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    @Zazziness let's see a religious law...hmm.. thou shall no steal.. is that in the constitution? I don't know, should be though. Hmmm.. thou shall not kill..I can't think where that one is either. How about..thou shall not commit adultery.. I don't think that's in the constitution either. These laws don't have to be in the constitution because they are common sense. They are taught to keep society from falling apart, when you are taught right from wrong.

    I don't speak for all Christians but I've never shot anyone or flew a plane into any building either. Yes the pilgrims did come to America to escape the catholic church and worship the way they wanted. Yes they was pacifist people too, but they did bring guns with them.

    People who come up with laws and vote on the laws are going to vote based on there view if the law is right or wrong. If they agree or disagree with it. So people raised in a Christian setting will look at the law from a Christian point of view.

    If it wasn't guns it would be bows and arrows,swords,knife, rocks, or sticks. People just need to try to get along and coexist. Whether you be Christians or Muslims. Problem is for thousands of years they have been fighting over religion and they will probably keep fighting for thousands of more years. It's just the way it is. Just got to keep praying and have faith.
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    Yes....that's why I agree with him....I would add we need guns to protect us and little girls in wheel chairs from TSA as well....
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    @Knightmare Not far off, I'd be suspisious of the entire department of Homeland Security. Wheelchair or not!
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    To the Christian right, what's wrong with Sharia law? Old testament-based, misogynist, eye-for-an-eye. Stonings, whippings, amputations, capital punishment for all sorts of crimes, it certainly isn't for bleeding-heart liberal weenies. Get rid of that Arabic name and call it something else, but what's there for a good radical American Christian not to love?
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    And make no mistake about it, the Christian right would be beheading "heathens" if they thought they could get away with it.
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    Old testament law is no longer observed.
    The change occurred when Jesus came and created a new church whose foundation is LOVE and FORGIVENESS. IE:turn the other cheek)
    He spread the word that old testament law was not to be observed anymore.
    This is why the jews wanted to kill him.
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    @cnw95 "The change occurred when Jesus came and created a new church whose foundation is LOVE and FORGIVENESS. IE:turn the other cheek)"

    I'm sure the people on the short end of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, and the apparently endless Catholic priest child rapist crime wave will be happy to hear this.
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    @cpeter133
    What he meant to say that they can now select which things in the OT they want to consider to be still required.
    Never hear a preacher point out tithing was an OT thing.
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    Myself I'm touch typing. I think just went blind from the shine off that head. Turtle wax you suppose?
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    @DARSB Did you hear a fellow poster turned me into the ATF for having guns and a medical marijuana card? I'm a hardened felon it turns out. Who knew? You might want to reconsider that law in Colorado. You're making way too many felons in Colorado.
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    @zachsquatch As long as you aren't drinking tequila and then sleeping "with the dog" things will probably be okay the next afternoon. ;)
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    Without a doubt . Don't make uninformed comments before reading the problems with mooslems in Europe , especially France lately . Dig deeper , educate youselves on barry hussein obama soetoro obama's cousin Odingo (sp) of Kenya who ran for office hoping to instill sharia law. Some say BO was over involved as a US senator & had complaints made to the State Dept.. Whatever , those too lazy to look for answers will attack & call names . Sharia law is their plan , what we need is for the real , true blue American Muslims to stand up , speak up & speak out about this planned hatred. I'm betting the silence will be deafening . Now is the time to protect your homeland .Show us who you support .
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    Yes...it's not just sharia law, but space aliens...thy'll break out of Area 51 eventually...and the Illuminati, those sneaky bastards...and...and....and...
  • #21
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    No we don't, we have the 1st Amendment to protect us from Sharia Law. What we need are articulate individuals, and sufficient education to ensure a constant stream of the aforementioned, to ensure that we follow the mandates of our Constitution.
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    Politicians both on the left and right have stabbed the constitution to near death already, what we need is to start electing reps who actually believe in it again.
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    @Arumizy Not so much. Feel free to cite specific examples. The only one I can really think of is the Patriot Act.
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    Which is true only so long as they are not burned at the stake, beheaded, or shot by a grandchild of mine kidnapped at gun point and trained to kill enemies of political militia/brigands. You have a right to speak, and if someone chooses to kill you to stop it, I have a right to "stop" them.
    No, religious law except for its practitioners, and only so long as they are.
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    @Drake_Burrwood Of course, your statement is contingent upon the word IF. There is NO legitimate threat of Sharia law being enacted in the US. It is barred by our constitution, and there has been no legitimate attempt to enact it. What is more, "I" don't require YOUR help to protect MY free speech. Thanks for the offer, I'm doing fine on my own.
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    @Litdes and I pray that continues to be the case, I also pray that if it changes that someone of any persuasion is there for you and yours.
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  • #134
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    Yes, because sharia law is so likely to happen in a majority Christian country founded on a secular constitution that prohibits government involvement in religion and where Muslims make up only a tiny minority and tend to be against theocracy.
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    Day by day, it's becoming a less and less "Christian country". I'm not a Christian, BTW. The other 22 Muslim nations in the world are pretty much either ruled by Shariya or inspired by it. Islam IS the fastest growing religion in the USA. In MALI a force of only 300 radical Muslims, albeit heavily armed, ruled over and terrorized just about the entire country. You're just thinking in PRESENT terms. You have to learn to look at THE BIG PICTURE and examine what is happening around the globe. Fifty years ago the idea of an African-American being elected President of the USA was unthinkable in a country that still practiced segregation openly or covertly.( In Little Rock, AR, home of Billy Clinton, in 1991, in Pulaski County's Courthouse you could STILL see the signs of the White and Colored Water Fountains. They had been painted over in white, but you could still read what they said. And, Arkansas's 44th Amendment commanded public employees and elected officials to OPPOSE Civil Rights and Integration upon penalty of law and loss of office. It was only NARROWLY defeated in November 1990.) Change Happens- sometimes as in the future possibility of Shariya Law, not always for the better.
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    @SomethinsFishy
    1. Turkey is a Muslim nation, but it has a secular government.
    2. So is Kosovo. In fact:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1230592012692...

    Sure change happens but there is NOTHING giving any sign that we are headed towards shariah law. How would it happen? Our elected officials enact shariah law? They're not going to do that. The voters will hate it. And it's not like there's super rich special interests that want to promote shariah. Most lobbyists like most Americans are Christian.
    Or maybe you imagine the Muslim fundamentalists are going to assemble an army and take us over.
    We outspend the entire world on our military budget.
    The Islamic radicals have no chance of imposing their ideology on the United States. NONE. Stop being so paranoid.
  • #127
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    It MAY be politically incorrect, but the man is right. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA and observe what has happened in countries were Islam has become the majority. Consider especially the total absence of non-Muslims in their governments. If you tell yourself that "it can't happen here", you're only kidding yourself.
  • #126
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    news flash!!!!! in order for us to keep our guns we're going to have to find us a leader of cariture and with guts and get behind him,be willing to die,it's really our only way(no i'm not the one,,way to old)and it needs to be done sooner than later,if we're going to have any chance at all
  • #122
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    gun control only gives the second amendment rights, into the hands of criminals and radicals. since police or military showing up with all their guns, after the massacre does not seem to be working out that well. the second amendment was meant to give people, at least an underdog chance to protect themselves. even though the police and military, show up faster than they did 200 years ago. they still have time, to take your scalp??? i cannot depend on, the police or military to protect me 24/7. they cannot even get to me, faster than a bullet, pipe bomb, or knife, or fist, or baseball bat can. when even all the protection kennedy or regan had, could not keep them safe. big deal so they wrestled reagan's assailant, to the ground after the gun was empty.
  • #111
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    Hilarious! So many people think that guns would protect them from the most well armed government in the world. Can you say poisoned/gassed or genetically engineered diseases? They would just go to the area with the strongest proponents of gun ownership. Then bon voyage to men, women and children. No shooting involved.
    Republicans have already had mind control programs and used children to develop assassins. CIA has already sold LSD to the American people.

    Ah.......the rallying cry for short sighted individuals.Whip up emotion and the masses stop thinking. Well, some of the masses.
  • #106
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    Not Sharia law, but we very well may need guns to protect ourselves if Obama succeeds in starting the civil war he seems to want.
  • #105
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    He should shut up.. The second amendment shall not be infringed means that we need no excuses why we want to keep it.
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