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    So... this is a proposal to tax a product in order to educate the public about dangers of the product that no one has shown exists... I think I prefer low information voters over low information legislators.
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    @SavageMazx "And why do so many damn stupid people keep voting them back into office."
    There is the million dollar question. Here's a better one, who actually voted for them? Ever notice how the people who voted for shitty politicians gets smaller the worse they do?
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    Seems like the carbon tax. The government will allow you to do something but will tax you for the activity and pretend as if the tax erases any potential negative consequence. I'm not very supportive of these measures. I say no more taxes.
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    I believe that proposals for a sin tax are nothing more than a grab for money masquerading as a solution, but I do believe that violent games and movies influence people to be violent. If you think that is far-fetched, then just think about how many billions of dollars are spent on advertising to influence people to seek status through car ownership, attractiveness through buying clothes and personal grooming products, and happiness through the purchase of myriad items. Perpetrators of violence in entertainment are shown to be powerful, sexy, admirable and honorable. There is nothing subliminal about the programmed appeal to the powerless masses.
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    Sin Tax cigarettes and the smokers keep smoking. Sin Tax booze and the drinkers keep on drinking. Sin Tax fast food and the fatties keep getting fatter. Sin Tax video games and it's just free advertisement for the violent games. YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE BEHAVIOR!!
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    "YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE BEHAVIOR!! "
    Apparently some people feel they can. DOMA exists because it was propped up by and voted in by people who feel that the gay lifestyle is a choice, basically.... a behavior.
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    @Fishbone345 - Equally stupid legislation. Human nature exists. If you could command or legislate human nature there would be no need for pulpits, pastors and preachers...because nobody would ever ~{ SIN }~.
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    @AntiPorcheria Oh I agree. In the interest of discussion however, what about Murder? Or Fraud? Assault and Battery, Grand Theft Auto?
    All laws against behavior. ;)
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    @Fishbone345 - What about download games? I got a free copy of Postal2 when I downloaded the movie Postal. I get to assault and shoot and blow up cars and buildings and kill dogs and cats and blow peoples heads off and shoot terrorists and shoot Gary Coleman and....well....you get the idea. It's a pretty disgusting, very adult game with no nudity.

    One of my favorite games. Really lets the pressure off after a day of dealing with aholes.

    Of course, as a 54 year old grampa I shouldn't play such things...but...whatever.

    If they ever caught me playing my game the CIA would probably drone strike my whole family.

    How about we start making the families of criminals pay a big chunk of their incarceration? Perhaps that would make parents take some responsibility early on. LOL!
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    @AntiPorcheria I don't think video games are the reason for the violent shootings we've had. I think its a cop out, and the reason the NRA has adopted it, is so people will shut up about guns and latch on to something else. Its the perfect deflection strategy.
    Adam Lanza didn't do what he did because of GTA IV, or any of the war 1st person shooters. He was psychologically unstable, and his mother did a piss poor job of handling that. She knew there was something wrong, and her solution of giving him access to guns was about one of the stupidest damn things anyone has done in a long time.
    I'm not supporting Gun Control, I'm just stating fact.
    There have been shootings in this country that go back to its inception, and video games like the ones in question, have only been a part of that since the latter part of the nineties.
    Charles Joseph Whitman didn't climb into a tower in the afternoon of August 1 1966 and start cutting people down because he saw it on a godamn video game, and neither did anyone else. I'm getting real damn tired of this argument from asshats that don't have a clue what they are talking about.
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    Great idea for the Pension tax slave States like California. Any new source of revenue must be embraced to extend the time before total fiscal collapse
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    If those states want to do that, it's their prerogative. Will it do anything except gain some extra cash for the state? No.
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    @AceLuby I respectfully disagree. When I was a smoker I did not have care how much tax I was paying. Such taxes are usually only a few pennies. I think a tax per game would have to be as high as $10 before it discouraged sales.
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    @Realthinker I think your sample size of one is a little small to be making any kind statement on the effects of taxes disincentivizing behavior. Plenty of people quit smoking because it got too expensive.

    I'm not saying it will work on video games, just that it does work with some behaviors.
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  • #66
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    Just another excuse for these parasites we call politicians to make more money while remaining innefficient & impotent.
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    This is greed masquerading as altruism. Every level of government has spent as if there is no tomorrow. Tomorrow has become today. In the nineties there was a massive layout by the tobacco companies that quickly moved from smoking cessation programs and medical assistance for people with smoking related illnesses to balancing state budgets. Many state budgets automatically include as much as $1.00 a pack to sustain their levels of spending. Having virtually killed the golden goose of tobacco revenue, they are casting about for another steady source of income. No politician in living memory has ever seen a tax he didn't like. The problem lies in finding something that is not already taxed. A tax will not change behavior; it will simply encourage the innovative to find ways to circumvent it.
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    What these people ignore is that violent video games do not exist in a vacuum. We have violent tv, violent movies, violent news stories, and then what about the mental illness that most of these shooters have? How about the Newtown shooter's broken home? Video games have been an easy scape goat since the late 80's.
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    Gol' dang I should run for congress. It's not video games. Its not fire arms, It is a combination of prescription drugs and how crappy our mental health system is. if you get counseling it could ruin your life, it stays on your record the rest of your life. you should remove the stigma from psych health care before anything
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    I think the whole damn country has gone crazy, a "Sin Tax" that is so funny.
    So all these people who don't believe in God, do they have to pay? Cause they may have a problem with that, since if they don't think there is a God, then they obviously don't believe there is any such thing as a sin. Lol.
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    Yeah like the politicians wouldn't divert that money to their never ending unlimited credit card. I'm opposed to violent video games but this is nothing more than an end run for revenue enhancement.
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    IF you are going to impose sin taxes impose them on things that actually do hurt people - like guns and bullets.
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    I swear I wish those damn guns -and bullets...and video games....and...- would stop killing people!!*thats sarcasm, by the way*
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    @John_Matrix Then chuckle on this Rambo wannabe....http://www.youtube. com/watch?feature=player_embed ded&v=5fWHFMQ8Wlk
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    If the crime is commited by a child, then who ever claims the a game led them to commit the crime, any type of crime, the person who bought the game should be tried as an accomplice for the crime along with the parent(s) for not paying attention to their child.
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    Im a gamer thats never hurt anyone. This is wrong. They are taxing me more. Raising food and gas prices. Now they are trying to make more money on one of my leisure activities? When is this shit gonna end? Why have they not yet mived him.out of office. I cant believe the supreme court dont find this man a first priority. Are they gonna sweep his case under the rug.. Maybe they are all in it together... The whole obama administration needs impeached. Along with sulreme court and homeland security needs shut down and charged with crimes against humanity and treason. We need to close our borders and pay off the national deficit with money on the.reserve and completely shut out china and walmarts corperate agenda.
  • #81
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    Both sides of the aisle love fear-mongering and tend to respond to other side's fear-mongering with more fear-mongering.
    Left: Guns!
    Right: Video Games! TV! Mental illness!
    Me: It doesn't matter what we do. There are bad people in the world and tragedies will happen. There are reasonable things we can do and that we already do. But selling out our freedoms is not the solution.
    We need to get over politics by emotions. Politics is serious business and should be decided by the facts.
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    If you want to make a sin tax, try taxing all the millions of unwed mothers and fathers who abandon their kids and expect tax payers to support them. That is so selfish and pathetic i can't even imagine someone abandoning their kids. Liberals have allowed this amoral culture to take hold and thrive. You never hear a Liberal mention morals or right and wrong unless they are talking about rich people or the GOP. They never hold anyone accountable for their actions. Why on earth should tax payers be bailing out these pariahs on our nation. I will help the kids but these dead beats can fend for themselves. Liberals hate the word morals because that might get people thinking about God and Liberals are all about censoring God from our nation.
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    The songs remains the same. If they are not attacking one right, they are attacking another. The other song is called Gimme that Money B....! Tax guns, tax ammo, tax video games, tax smoking, and lets spend more of your money on government funded research while we're at it. Want to stop the violence? Get rid of gun free zones, loosen up tight gun control states again, become red states, and work on the economy. That way knuckleheads will be busy working and not have so much time on their hands to drift off into phsyco or la la land.
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