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    I have friends that live along the border in Arizona and California. They tell me the borders are absolutely not secure. I've also watched the television show Border Patrol, The agents say that they can't catch them all. So how is The Arizona Governor wrong? The border is either secure or it's not. If it's not then do what's necessary to make it secure. Need manpower? Convert all the DEA agents.
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    I live on the border part of the year, and have to deal with drug runners crossing paths with me all the time, usually at night. For the most part I just let them pass, since I'd get in trouble from both sides if I intervened. The only time I've ever gotten involved was when a couple of them were trying to steal an ATV from my barn. Got behind a tractor wheel and leveled an AR-15 at them and said to vamoose, and luckily they did without incident. Gets spooky sometimes out there in the deserts.
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    @Politic-n I've heard similar stories from my friends in Arizona. It's a problem, A very real problem. I don't care how the border came to be, or who was where first. The fact of the matter is, it's ours now and must be protected. It's a damned shame so many can't see that.
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    @FollowTheMoney Yep. It would be so easy and inexpensive to completely secure the border, but political correctness and the Democrat/Republican parties would not allow it. So the US will continue to suffer from politics.
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    liberals want no responsibilities to society or for the most part for themselves.They want what others can provide for them with little or no imput of their own.In a progressive liberals mind,it will always be some one elses fault that they fall short of being able to take care of their self.
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    The borders are not legitimate. The land was taken from mexico using terrorist tactics of murder and violence. Mexicans are taking the land back non- violently. It is a continuation of that war, and like vietnam, the u.s. will lose.
    Democrats may very well admit the u.s. can police its borders, but democrats are are but one party in a two party system of u.s. imperialism. Those who support the mexican people know the claim that mexicans should not be allowed free access to their own land are wrong. Viva Zapata!
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    @PoliticalSpice No argument here, just a question? Your Saying that California and the rest of the Southwest should surrender to Mexico and become vassel states of that country?
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    @zeke well I don't think its practical to talk surrender in the context of a non-violent occupation, I'm just saying it was their land, it was stolen through murder and force, and I support the right of non-violent mexicans to come and go as they please. I wouldn't want to cede the primacy of the u.s. constitution. Nor am I for having wide open borders that terrorist could cross at will, but until u.s. starts recognizing the natural rights of people of mexico to freely come and go, I know which side of that issue I support...
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    @PoliticalSpice-- So you believe that America shouldn't be allowed to police its borders like other countries?
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    The cartels are ready to cross the border, leaving a trail of severed human heads behind them, no doubt.
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    @PoliticalSpice Well, it's true she doesn't use it much, but I'd prefer she keep her head attached to her neck. And if you could stop channeling Ted Nugent, that would be great.
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    I wonder what Jan Brewers stance on our military actions have been over the last couple of decades.
    Definition of Irony - Supporting military actions across the globe on the War on Terror & then informing us how shoddily our borders are protected.
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    I wonder if Jan can see Russia from her house, like Sara Palin can?---Just a thought.
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    We live in New Mexico. We KNOW it's not secure. BTW, re the Drug Cartels ready to cross the border, they're probably Jonesing for more "assault rifles" (sic) now that Eric Holder and the BATFE have cut off their supply for the time being, lol.
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    The republicans,when had the opportunity did nothing because they wanted the cheap labor. The democrats are doing nothing because they want to inhance their social agenda and increase their vote. The working people of this country are as usual sucking hind teet.
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    Thanks for stating the obvious. Legalize, tax, and allow people to make their own adult decisions in a soceity that respects liberty...
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    @PoliticalSpice "make their own adult decisions in a society that respects liberty...". Do these "adult decisions" include responsibility for making poor decisions? I know I not the only person in the US that's tired of hearing that drug addiction and alcohol addiction is a disease. If these are "diseases", then so is cigarette smoking and many other "decisions". Adult decisions must include responsibility.....
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    @stepped_in_it
    Absolutely.
    There's no reason why addiction to drugs should be viewed any differently than addiction to anything else that eats up your time and prevents you from being responsible. The internet can do that to some people. Some people argue its different because its chemical but so is everything else that influences us because when we perceive through our senses and make decisions about what to do that also involves a series of chemical reactions. That our thoughts and feelings are chemical reactions does not mean they are beyond our control. Chemistry is required to send signals to our limbs and make them work. That doesn't mean you don't control it when you stand up and walk.
    If someone is addicted to something and can't find the will power to break the addiction without some kind of social or other support they should be responsible for paying for it, not taxpayers.
    And some drugs can only really be done responsibly if the setting is controlled. I don't want people just taking PCP where ever they want. There should be "controlled drug use stores" where licensed professionals supervise the person and keep them and others from harm.
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    @stepped_in_it - "Do these "adult decisions" include responsibility for making poor decisions?" Of course they do! That's why we have DUI laws, public drunk ordinances and regulated places for sales...
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    Of course border patrol and customs claim it is at a 2 year low, but that could just as easily mean they just aren't catching the illegals, or a straight up lie altogether.
    But hell, our leadership wants them hear, it helps the approval rating, don't ya know?
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    I wonder how many of the previous 3 posters live on or have recently been on the border. If you want to believe the biased governmental statements you should have your head examined. The government does not want to admit what the true situation is on the border; they just supply drug cartels with "fast and furious" guns so they can cross at will.
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    This creature is flakier than Pillsbury. Apparently nobody has paid attention to it in the last 5 minutes. No doubt she can see Mexico from her back window. She is like Palin only needing a face lift and brain transplant from A. B. Normal (Young Frankenstein).
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    God you Obama people are a classless bunch. Grow up and Man Up and stop making comments one might expect from an orphaned 13 year old girl gang memberr.
  • #157
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    HOG WASH!!!

    Gov. Brewer is absolutely correct in her assertion. This president and his shoulder borne parrot in DHS have violated their oath of office for not protecting the sovereignty of this countries borders! All we get is BS=Barry Soetoro from this mis-administration. I live 20 miles from the border that separates us from Mexico. We see these incursion every day without proper enforcement. It's not ICE or the Border Patrols fault either, their being restrained and muzzled by these phony miscreants in our govt.

    Our Sheriffs in Maricopa, Penal, and Cochise counties have complained of this incursion incessantly, only to be ignored.

    The best this 'ersatz' president and DHS have done, is to erect signs up to 70 miles from the Mexican border along major roadways in Arizona warning the residents that ILLEGAL and DRUG CARTELS may be encountered in their travels in OUR OWN COUNTRY! Wise-Up!!!

    Check this out...
    https://www.buildtheborderfence.com/azborder/...
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    "Ready to cross"? I have seen them cross with impunity on countless occasions, and I only live there part of the year! Border "security" is a joke, even many of the US Customs agents work for the Cartels, and everyone that lives near it knows it, but are scared to do anything about it for fear of retaliation. The cartels have already taken over parts of the US.
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    I get a laugh out of those who say we stole the land & it's still a border dispute. This has been going since one caveman snatched a bone from another . Why is it always the Americans that did something wrong ? Why doesn't the gov't. of Mexico return the land to it's rightful owners ? The Spanish Conquest began somewhere in the first decades of the 1500's . So why aren't the liberals here whining about returning Mexico to the Olmecs - the Mayans - the Toltecs or the Aztecs ?? Why no complaints on the germ warfare used by the Spanish that killed an estimated 'one-half' of the Aztec population ? Small Pox killed them off & second Spanish invasion was an easy take-over . No problem & no complaints , huh ? Must only apply to white Americans - the only ones to settle & take lands from others.
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    Of course they're not secure, for a reason. The private banks (the fed) needs these cartels to keep the drug war going for their tax free profits. The "drug war" is the only thing keeping the fiat currencies afloat.
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    The government is so used to us buying this nonsense that they blatantly just tell us lies knowing we'll just ignore them. We all know the border isn't secure. How can it be? Pregnant women still enter this country from Mexico and make it to U.S. hospitals to deliver their anchor babies. We have "documentation" that says less illegals are crossing the border. Well, duh! Most are here already and the rest don't come because our economy is too bad for it to be worth their while. We still have signs in Arizona,near the border telling Americans not to enter the area because it's not safe. If it's not safe, then it's not secure. Pretty simple really.
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    Thanks for the news flash. Do you know what else? If you build a fence, they will fly over it, tunnel under it, or float around it. I can also assure you that there are American citizens living near the border waiting for them with open arms.
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    Thank you for stating the obvious. The way to handle drugs cartels is legalize, tax, treat us like adults in a nation with liberty. I and many other americans want security only to keep criminals and terrorist out. Many americans like me feel our mexican neighbors are more then welcome, should have a right to come and go as they please and will help them to do so. Mexicans, are in essense using non-violent means to reclaim territory taken from them, all this militarization of the border, is just part of the war that stole land from mexico, like the war in vietnam, the u.s. will lose. Miltiarization of society is just another way to reduce our liberty.
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    @PoliticalSpice "Mexicans, are in essense using non-violent means to reclaim territory taken from them"
    This isn't the Mexican army, this is a bunch of thugs killing people and making problems everywhere they go. They are organized crime, nothing more nothing less and to try and make them into noble Mexican warriors is just absurd. They are thugs with guns, trying to impress their might on those weaker than they. They are the definition of what our military should be fighting.
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    @PoliticalSpice @Fishbone345 I think that there is some truth in each of your comments. I don't agree that any foreign citizens should be able to come and go as they please, especially murderous criminals. On the other hand, blaming Mexicans for American drug problems is like blaming the pizza delivery boy for making you fat.
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    @Fishbone345 most mexicans coming into the u.s. are honest hard working people. If you want to believd most mexicans are part of criminal cartels we disagree so strongly it makes no sense to debate the issue.
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    @PoliticalSpice "most mexicans coming intothe u.s. are honest..."

    I ddidn't have to read any further. ALL Mexicans entering the u.s. without permission are CRIMINALS. I could give a rats ass about why they came here, they ate still here illegally and therefore criminals.
    Further, bc they are undocumented, they do not pay income tax, another federal offense.
    Finally, they steal free education and healthcare, more felonies.

    If that's your definition of honest...
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  • #156
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    According to the talking heads on television, the border is more secure than it was. Nevertheless, I think she is wrong on one point. The Mexican drug cartels have been in the US for some time now. I had heard of the Zetas long before I heard of the fighting that is going on in Mexico now. If drugs are sent from Mexico there has to be a receiver in the US or the drugs would never get here.
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