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  • #8
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    This is like atheists demanding that the Roman Catholic Church accept their point of view. How about an open bar at the next local AA meeting?
  • #19
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    Excellent point....and please don't give them ideas....progressive liberals are fond of paradoxical stupid silly ideas being implemented by an executive order by President Hussein Obama or some RINO supported law....
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    @AceLuby - Depends on the conservative you talk too. From my conservative perspective, it's not that guys who have sex with guys can't be conservative, it's that they, as conservatives, wouldn't find the need to rewrite the definition of marriage to suit their abnormal lifestyle. I'm sure there are conservatives that wouldn't even accept this allowance, but they run the risk of excluding themselves because of their own abnormalities.
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    @DerivePI Why wouldn't they want the same rights as everyone else? Are conservatives anti-liberty, or are they anti-constitution?
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    @AceLuby - Perhaps this supreme court will dismay me again, but I think it appropriate to uphold California's right to define marriage as there is nothing in the constitution that gives the right to define marriage to the Federal Government (DOMA should be repealed in so far at it infringes on state's rights). As for anti-liberty, yes, you can make that case just as denying cigarettes and alcohol to children is anti-liberty.

    As for having the same rights, yes, everyone has the same right to marry. What no one has the right to do is redefine reality. If you want 2+2 to equal 5 that's your problem. Requiring me, through the force of government, to pretend that, is wrong.
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    It's a conservative committee not republican. Why should liberal republicans be invited? That doesn't meake any sense. If you're socially liberal, then you are not a conservative. You are either liberal or a libertarian, which to me, in most cases, is synonymous.
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    Liberal and libertarian are actually very different in their political viewpoints. Libertarians are conservative in the true sense of the word: they believe in small government and that includes keeping government from meddling with your love life.
    "Conservatives" who want big government to play nanny to grown adults are usually theocrats who want us to live in a "Christian" nation instead of the free nation our founders established.
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    @Zazziness Don't you go making sense now, it confuses people. I have an idea to get people (republo-servatives) to start understanding that libertarians are small government and in the true sense of the words republican or conservative. At the end of all of our sentences we say FREE MARKETS RULE SMALL GOVERNMENT WOO!!! Maybe after a while we can throw in legalize drugs end prohibition it isn't the 20s anymore and add small government after so it gradually starts making sense to them.
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    If the teabaggers look down on, and want to completely change the established GOP, why don't they just become a third party ltogether?

    They know why--withhout the GOP brand, they haven't got a chance in hell of surviving. They are parasites, eating their host from within until it dies.
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    Not only am I for legalizing gay marriage, I'm also for gay adoption. There's no better way to get people to care about the future than to have kids that are going to have to live in it.
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    @Bobolinsky I've been thinking about what he said and I've come up with this, if we can't depend on government to get out of something so simple and harmless as our personal lives, what makes us think we can get them to give up complete control of us by getting them to stop interfering with the economy?
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    @Libertyiskey-- I agree.

    From the Reason.com article I cited above...

    "If Republicans were smart, they’d listen to that rising generation of young people who want government to stay not just out of the economy, but out of our personal lives, too."

    "Fortunately, some Republicans are onboard with that. Another of my guests was Justin Amash, congressman from Michigan."

    "The young libertarians admire him, in much the same way they admire Republicans like Sens. Rand Paul (KY), Mike Lee (UT), and Jeff Flake (AZ); Gov. Gary Johnson (NM); and new Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie."

    Should I mention that Amash, Paul, Lee, Flake and Massie are all Tea Partiers?
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    @Bobolinsky I like Amash so far, Rands been ok so far as well don't know much about the others. Voted Gary Johnson. I have no problem with Tea Partiers when they actually practice what they preach (small government for all even if they don't like people smoking weed or being gay).
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    Courtesy of Wikipedia

    "Cupp grew up in Carlsbad, California, a suburb of San Diego, later relocating to Andover, Massachusetts.

    In 2000, Cupp graduated from Cornell University with a Bachelor of Arts in Art History. While attending Cornell, she worked for The Cornell Daily Sun. In 2010, she earned a Master of Arts from the Gallatin School of Individualized Study at New York University with a concentration in Religious Studies."

    I think the CPAC can go without her.
  • #9
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    That's why the extreme rightwing keeps losing elections for the GOP. They've decided they can do without anybody.
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    @Zazziness Actually it's the old white establishment GOPers. They want Tea Party folks out as much groups like this. They need to retire. The left, I give them credit, outside of some old blowhard morons like Boxer,Pelosi,Reid,Waxman,Durbi n,Waters,Jackson Lee.... they get younger folks in. They may be wrong, ill informed and unfit for office (Like Jackson Jr and Ellison) But they get em elected.
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    @drpeeper The nation wants to get rid of the teabaggers. They are know-nothing fascists who want to take the country back to the 1950's--their vision of which never existed. Teabaggers are the LAST people to call anyone " wrong, ill informed and unfit for office".
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    @cpeter133 Never knew a balanced budget- adherence to the Constitution, less taxes & less debt was 'fascist'. Least you don't mind showing your ignorace for all the world to see. Congrats.
    By the way, Barney Frank retired- since you wanted to get rid of 'teabaggers'.
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    I like Ms Cupp. Rarely agree with her, of course, but she expresses her points of view without the customary malice of radio talkers. I think it's significant that CPAC has now carried on with its single-minded devotion to the politics-as-usual that is killing the Republican party.
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    @Knightmare
    You are right except for having the wrong idea of what is immoral.
    Protecting the wealth of billionaires while trying to take away money from programs that act as a safety net for the poor is immoral.
    Spending as much as the next 6 countries on our military industrial complex while 1 in 6 Americans deals with food insecurity is immoral.
    Drone attacks are immoral.
    People dying in this country because they can't afford the available health care is immoral.
    Trying to prevent people from voting simply because they disagree with you is immoral.
    90+% of wealth going to >5% of the population is immoral.
    Imprisoning people for marijuana is immoral.

    Two people falling in love is not immoral. If you can accept any of the above 7 but not gay people being married then your priorities as a human being suck.
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    @Knightmare
    Funny. Your posts here give no indication that you support shrinking the size of our military, not cutting funding for safety net programs like food stamps, socialized medicine, or any policy that will decrease income inequality in this country. In fact, you seem to be big on big "defense", anti-safety net programs, and anti-anything that Glenn Beck might call socialist. Maybe you've just had a change of heart.
    Maybe one day you will evolve enough to understand that who someone else loves is none of your damn business if they aren't in love with your mate or underage child.
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    @Cheenoguy First, I'd just like much of our government streamlined. Take the military.....get out of Afghanistan.....protect our borders.....stop cutting our Navy.....this is the only part of our military that should NOT be cut.....{history lessons on naval power}.....

    Programs like that are helpful but can always be.....more efficient.....

    Socialized medicine.....will never work.....not to the extent that you might think.....

    And as an American I don't see why they couldn't get married.....as a christian.....that is not love.....and there is forgiveness for that lifestyle.....
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    Never thought I would type this about a Conservative "pundit" but I am proud of her action. Only 238 years since the declaration of independence but people still have to fight for their rights. America still making the oaf of allegiance a lie.
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    Very much like the Conservatives who were stupid to not invite Chris Christie. Here they go again with another stupid move. And they wonder why the last election was lost. The GOP needs, NEEDS to drop the whole social issue BS and focus on the economy and reckless government spending. They could beat the drum louder in those arenas and do just fine but the problem is they keep worrying about little things like excluding GOProud and the Log Cabin Republicans. Again, stupid move on CPAC's part. I absolutely agree with S.E. Cupp on this one.
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    What is it that people don't understand about sticking to and staying true to the truth and your beliefs? That's what this country is founded on....both sides deserve respect for at least that much....
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    @AceLuby Actually, the KKK, Westboro Baptist....Black Panthers, Reverend Wright, President Hussein Obama....as long as they don't take those beliefs too far....

    Freedom of conscience....but you imply that their beliefs are wrong? Isn't that judging?

    And what is your standard or who is your standard?
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    @Knightmare I didn't imply anything, I asked you a question that you danced around. Should the KKK, blank panthers, Al Qaida, etc... be respected because they stay true to their beliefs? Should groups based on hate, superiority, and violence be respected?
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    @AceLuby And you sidestepped the issue completely....they would deserve respect for excercising their freedoms....I didn't say their actions or what they said should be respected....there is a difference....oh wait....it's okay when progressive liberals defend the Iranian president to speak at an American college but not okay to defend anyone else's speech and freedoms that YOU deem wrong by implication....
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    @Knightmare I'm not sidestepping anything, I'm asking you a straightforward question that you still haven't answered. Do you respect the KKK because they stick to their beliefs?
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    Well, with only a dozen or so attendees left, they won't need to rent a large arena or pay much for catering! You have to admit, that's pretty conservative!
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    Meh, if CPAC wants to keep shooting themselves in the foot, let em. The LCR's have been around since '77, GOProud since '09 it's not like this is some dirty little secret.
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    Is she gay? This is sad I liked her at one point and time as a conservative. She is smart she is pretty and she makes alot of great points. She is dead wrong on this.
  • #154
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    Yes, I think it's justified. There's no reason to exclude ANY Americans based on gender preference. Wake up! It's NOT against the law! This is one of the reasons the Republicans are losing so many people! Stop it with the narrow-minded provincial exclusions!
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    Why is gay an issue?? I just dont get it. Unless they go to these gatherings and perform sex then charge them indecent exposure, what does it matter? who cares who supports it or doesnt support it??.its not a civil.right, its a.private right..
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    It's CPAC's party, and they can allow who they want. Conservatives and the GOP aren't necessarily the same.
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