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    "I wanted to expose 'bloodlust' of US forces in Middle East"
    HMMM.....and some think "boots on the ground" will cause less collateral damage then drones. "Boots on the ground" involve 100's to 1000's of humans with the odds of a (small) percentage to "lose" it...ie bloodlust. A drone involves 1 operator with less likely hood of a "lose" it situation!
    Though this soldier was wrong in his actions, his motive was right!
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    My question is, did the Washington Post or New York Times alert the F.B.I. when they were approached? If not, why?
    When Manning took an oath to defend the Nation and again when he was granted a Top Secret clearance, he was made aware that that these secrets were to be kept at all costs, no matter his personal feelings. Perhaps he felt that it was his patriotic duty to reveal these secrets, but he should have quit the Army and become an investigative reporter. He has the I.Q. to be brilliant.
    "Loose lips sink ships!"
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    "My question is, did the Washington Post or New York Times alert the F.B.I. when they were approached?" Good point. Wouldn't that action(s) be considered being an accessory after the crime? Guess more proof that "corporations" aren't people because if you or I "helped" or had knowledge of this crime, we'd be in shackles!
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    Yeah but when you've got the Commander In Chief pulling stunts like Fast and Furious.....he's just following the Commander's example.....
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    @Knightmare Seriously? 3 separate comment about this in an article that has nothing to do with it? We get it... you don't like Holder and Obama.
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    Personally I think what he did was heroic. He exposed military targeting of reportersa and exposed it. That the times and post wouldn't print it shows they care less about their obligation under the constitution. But not poorly enough to report potential sources to the FBI. How many people would offer them stories if it got out they report potential sources to the FBI?
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    He may act stupid but people that are assigned in those positions are not. I say yes he is a traitor, because this to me is trying to cause disruption to the chain of command at a national level.
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    "I, Bradley Manning, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

    Mr. Manning took his pay, his benefits, his uniform, his clothing and his honor with that oath. By reneging on his oath while still under service he has broken his vow to his own honor, his fellow soldiers, his officers, his president and his country.

    Revealing secret or secured information that was designated so by the "officers appointed over" him leaves him with the title "Traitor".
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    Sure, by any definition Manning committed treason, but the first word I'd use to describe him is "idiot". What was a guy like that doing with unlimited access to SIPRnet? I have the impression he was left on his own for a year with nothing to do but read "secrets", so it's not surprising he lost whatever judgment he started with.
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    @Ryuo - Our government is concerned with who owns what weapon to the degree that they are calling for mental health screenings prior to purchase...

    ...but they'll take a wet-behind-the-ears, bubble-gum chewing, fresh-outa-high-school kid and put him somewhere with nothing to do and a top secret clearance a computer full of top secret information and a link to the net?

    Does something seem kinda out of skew here?
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    @AntiPorcheria Both statements you made, I could not agree with more. I only wish I could vote up both comments even more.
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    Don't be just sayin'.

    Manning is a willful traitor, he took an oath and deliberately violated that trust.

    Holder only failed to shut down a Bush43 program.

    Not even close.
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    @harold_lloyd I agree with you to a point but I also agree with his motivation my dad was in nam and we all know the crazy stuff that went on their and not everyone was a target I understand that not knowing friend from foe can have that effect but the people should know the truth about these wars and the dirty lies that are military and government hide under propaganda and secret ops so yes he is guilty of treason and he should be put to death for that and I don't feel bad saying that because if he really beloved in that the he should be willing to die for it like are fore fathers
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    Manning did not "aid the enemy". He merely exposed the american government for its incompetence and stupidity. A fact well known in the rest of the world but beyond the comprehension of the majority of americans.
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    This is an individual who first took and oath then was trained and acknowledged in the use and protection of OPSEC (Operational security) and the use and protection and custodial duties regarding the safekeeping of classified documents under his watch. He failed, point blank and not only disregarded his duties and responsibilities he willfully placed his own agenda and activism above his country and his fellow soldiers and their lives. So while you may agree with Manning and weep for some insurgent or the human shield he was using. His actions may have killed just has many of his fellow American's.
    Manning should spend 20 years in prison and do hard labor cleaning grave markers at national cemeteries. That getting off easy not long ago he would have been executed for treason. Julian Assauge should spend time in GITMO.
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    He doesn't seem fit to be sent to prison, I feel bad for him. I hope he gets away with it, he wasn't fit for the position he was in and I bet he never expected the material he would discover to weigh so heavy on his soul.
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    You may be at least partially right. He perhaps should have been vetted better. He was bullied most of his life, including in bootcamp. In fact, he was almost discharged during basic training for being unfit. But then he began standing up for himself and they allowed him to continue. He has a history of emotional instability during his formative years. His family was dysfunctional.
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    He learned the military was targeting and killing news reporters. I hope he receives very light penalty. Obama won't pardon him, but he should.
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    Bradley Manning knew what he was doing and did it anyway. In addition to his punishment for treason, the officers who ignored his obvious instability need to be reprimanded. If the military is desparate for comp geeks, they need to pay more for them.
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    what should happen to the officers responsible for those who killed reporters from a military helicopter? You don't seem too concerned about that...

    BTW he wasn't ever charged with treason. The guy is a hero for exposung this. Obama should pardon him...
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    @PoliticalSpice - Restrain yourself. It is not appropriate to name a different issue (ex. baby seals) and then mischaracterize how I don't care about it (ex. you show no concern for the clubbing of the innocent baby seals).

    "whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason..."

    Did BM owe allegiance to the US - yes.
    Did BM give aid and comfort to our enemies?- yes.
    Did BM adhere to the enemies of the US?- no - so I guess he doesn't deserve treason, but to call him a hero? What did he expose that you believe makes him a hero?
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    @DerivePI He exposed, not the killing of baby seals, but proof the military knew that they were targeting and killing reporters from helicopters...
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    @PoliticalSpice - first time I've heard of it. But here's the investigation report dated 8 days after the incident:

    http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/...

    I did see one guy with a shoulder strap, and I did see one guy looking around a building with something. I saw a whole bunch of guys that didn't appear to be armed. Evenso -
    - Did BM have access to all of the information necessary to perform a legal review?
    - Did BM try to uphold the law and do his duties prior to dumping these documents to the public?
    - Is bloodlust a criminal offense? Do we want to make it one?

    As for proof that they were targeting reporters - no I don't think so. BM a hero, no, absolutely not.
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    Mixed up kid that wanted to let the public know what is going on, but a traitor he is not. He still has pimples and I'm sure he was of the belief that his revealing this information was for the greater good. He should be held accountable for his actions, however I just don't believe he was trying to be a traitor.
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    And the Truth shall Set You Free (etched in stone at CIA HQ) Mannings actions exposed truth. Good, Bad, and Ugly. Without the Ugly, there'd have been no story
  • #55
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    The little weasel should have received the death penalty for treason. He released hundreds of classified documents, without authorization, during war time. That was not his place to do this. If he had issues with something, he should have taken it up with either his command through the IG or with his congressman. There are avenues of communication he could have used to make this happen. Instead, he took it upon himself to possible endanger other peoples lives by the unauthorized release of information.
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    A misguided, idealistic, young kid, who as with most of us while we are young, was led by his heart more than his brain. He should have never enlisted in the US Armed Services. It's no place for dreamers or non-conforming idealists. "Justice" should be tempered with Mercy.
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