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    OMG, is Nero Obama finally proposing something that makes sense? Quick, someone check the temperatue in Hades.
  • #11
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    Obama is trying to stack the deck AGAIN by causing upheaval putting everyone at each others throat so he can have an out when all goes to hell again. Chicago back stabbing at it very best. Get use to it America.
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    Well, based on past behavior, he will get the GOP to board the ship, set sail and then sink it. Meanwhile, our ability to safeguard our senior citizens' retirements becomes worse, but maybe the next president will take care of that. Eugenics and Euthanasia continue to pop up in liberal politics.
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    Wow. None of the options even came close. I guess he isn't stupid. What at a political move. He just put the republicans in a spot where to get cuts in spending they have to vote to cut Soc and Medicare. He knows that no politician will do that but now he has a counter to the claims he won't cut anything. It's a bluff.
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    You got that too? So call his bluff.....I mean Republicans really are in the best position.....they don't have anything to lose.....
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    @Knightkore I don't know how they play this. He set a trap. But the republicans can flip it back on him. If he is willing to hurt the country to make the republicans look bad it will hurt him. Lets see what happens
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    Well frankly if you think this is some kind of "negotiation" ploy...Its a Very Bad one..Because don't ever believe that the republicans won't JUMP at the chance to cut Soc Sec...No, I don't think its any kind of tactic at all...I think its just a VERY BAD IDEA to put Soc Sec on the table for cuts...Now I do like Obama---But I have to honestly say...That he,....well he is not the best "negotiator" that I have seen in the Whitehouse...by far....No, it will be Democrats, Liberals, Independents, and Seniors who will bring him back to reality....This is a non-starter.
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    @Sonny that took a lot for you to admit. But he is shooting some kind of angle don't doubt that. And btw the GOP wants to figure out a way to pay for Soc Sec. Not kill it. I wish I had all the money I paid in to invest my self. Because I doubt I ever see a penny from it.
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    How does anyone consider social security and medicare, which have been paid for by individuals and employers, entitlement? The fact that the government wasted the money which was paid in is the government's fault. No one ever even considers what happens to the funds paid in by individuals who die before they collect it. Instead of being what was intended when the programs began, the government made it into the worlds largest Ponzi scheme!
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    I'm sick and tired of conservatives calling the tens of thousands of dollars I've been paying into Medicare and Social Security for more than 40 years "entitlements." That's MY money, asshats! You're damned right I'm "entitled" to it!
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    I am elibible for maximum social security. I don't get it because I have "too much" other income in retirement. Fine. And now this asshat is going to take more because he wants to give money to Wall Street or welfare or what? He thinks taking seniors money is better than cutting military corruption? I told you he was going to do this. He's no different than GW Bush except he's willing to give gays anything they want. The ONLY difference.
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    @Knightkore You really can't separate Obama from GW Bush on illegals since both tried to give amnesty.
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    Couldn't agree more, and here we have the far right championing it like it's a great plan. SS would last for 50 years if we'd stop STEALING from it to pay for WAR. Medicare would last that long too if we'd modify the terms so we could negotiate prices on the goods and services. These are simple reforms that will help our seniors. Meanwhile we're spending ungodly amounts of money on a war that isn't even a war, we're handing out no bid contracts like candy, and there is absolutely no oversight on the BS that's being spent. I won't even get into the fact that taxes are too damn low for everyone.

    But no... old people and poor people are the major problems... The stupidity of America never ceases to amaze me.
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    " I told you he was going to do this." Exactly....what I told the liberal fools when they shouted he was a "god". As soon as the "man" no longer had to worry about a re-election, the bus was coming in and "we" would be under it!
    Please America.....get so fed up with all these arse's that you RE-ELECT NOBODY...
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    @stepped_in_it Obama has spent every day since he was re-elected trying to sell out the seniors for the benefit of the welfare trash. He's done it with me.
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    Ya know everyone who is retired paid their dues for medicade and medicare. Howabout cutting welfare, and the great cell phone giveaway? Howabout cutting all senate and congressional salaries and benefits, to include operating and travel expenses?
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    First cut - senate and congressional salaries and benefits.

    Second cut - welfare payments to Israel. Time they stand on their own two feet

    Third cut - military aid to other countries. It's used to buy American weapons. What a way to manipulate money.

    Fourth cut - other foreign aid. Sorry, we gotta take care of our own country first.

    Fifth cut - subsidies to big oil companies and other big corporation

    Sixth cut - tax loopholes. No more hiding money, tighten up deductions

    Seventh cut - military spending. Even the best auditors in the country can't figure out how much this organization spends of tax payer money.

    When we get through these 7 deadly sins, then let's move on to the citizen tax payers and see if we actually need to require anything of them.
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    What I find interesting here is that those wanting to cut social security and medicare are completely ignoring that our govt stole the interest money earned on SS contribution. Further the money used for medicaid is money paid in by Social Security contributors. If the boomers money had been left alone by the Govt there would have been enough interest earned for every boomer to have full 100% medical coverage and 50,000.00 a year in checks. But those who want to attack Social Security and Medicare set around crying the blues about "govt paying their bills and stop deficit spending". Well? WELL? The govt owes this money to the Boomers. The govt stole it. Time to pay it back. You right wingers just need to get your guns and ammo and get out there and protect America so we can cut Military spending in half for the twenty years it will take for the Boomers to all die off so Social Security can go back to being raided again. I know it's an inconvenience when you have Nukes to build and 300.00 hammers and 1,500.00 toilet seats to buy but it's why you bought all those guns isn't it? To protect freedom and the American way?
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    What are you talking about? So people who own guns raided SS and now we should go be volunteer mercenaries so soldiers' pay can pay baby boomers back? Lol nevermind..you don't have to respond. Lol
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    @Slowmo Who said anything about cutting soldiers pay? pay them double as well. Simply stop paying Halliburton for services they didn't render for starters.
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    Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Social Security is NOT an entitlement! There's never much talk about putting the smack down on the baby makers, illegals, drug addicts and bad back 18 year olds who are sucking up everything we pay in on their SSI. I think the government owes me about 1.3 million on the money I paid in and they drew interest on. Cheers to all the eldery Obama a$$ kissers who helped the Mystery Man win the title he does not deserve.
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    Although entitlements do need to be cut...drastically, he is still absolutely pathetic. Man up and accept the sequester (his idea). Gambled and lost.
  • #117
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    There ARE things that could be "cut" without really hurting anyone, and that would save money while still providing medical equipment. Take for instance, "Oxygen Concentrators" for folks with COPD. Why doesn't Medicare just BUY the concentrators at a cost of under $1,000. per unit (actually less) instead of PAYING FOR RENTALS of the unit from month to month at an average cost in 2003 of $323. per unit? This seems INSANE. But that was the situation with my late Mother, who suffered from COPD and used an Oxygen Concentrator from 1994 until her death in September 2003.
    That was almost 20 years of rental payments. Multiply 240 months x $323.=$77,520!!!
    Medicare could have BOUGHT her the unit, and paid a flat maintenance fee (in the almost 20 years, only two (2) units needed replacement) yearly and still SAVED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. There are LOTS OF CASES like this where Medicare OVERPAYS for needed equipment. What's needed with these programs is a cost-cutter like the one in the movie "Dave" played by Charles Grodin. Someone with freaking common and business sense!
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    Darn! Scrolling on my cell phone caste
    A wrong vote for me.:(

    I say investigate ALL entitlements!!!
    End the fraud!!! And create jobs!
    A 2 for one! Haha!
  • #89
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    Obama is a joke and the american people are like lambs. This man has not done anything but put us into more debt. Thanks Obama but you don't have to worry where your next pay check is comming from it's the working people.
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    I voted No. Reason why? I do not consider Social Security or Medicare "entitlements." the left lumps them in there with their "progressive" agenda so their welfare, food stamps, etc ate not cut.
    We need to stop using "entitlements" attached to a system people have paid into over their lifetime. That's not an "entitlement" it is what is owed to those that contributed their lifetime.
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    @earl if the GOP campaigned on dissecting what is grouped into this "entitlements" category we would be much further along.
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    I just LOVE seeing this big eye-opening smack in the face to all the low information voters and seniors that voted for Emperor Nero Obama. After all the fear mongering and demagoguing this lying clown did during the campaign about Romney, Ryan and republicans throwing granny off a cliff and taking away Social Security and Medicare, Nero Obama shows what a liar he really is and offers it up himself. Another sad "I told you so" moment for the low information Obama voting public.
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    He's betrayed everyone else in the Country, he doesn't care anymore about the elderly than he does the rest of the nation...he cares about one thing. Power. Narcissists love power.
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    I just LOVE seeing this big eye-opening smack in the face to all the low information voters and seniors that voted for Emperor Nero Obama. After all the fear mongering and demagoguing this lying clown did during the campaign about Romney, Ryan and republicans throwing granny off a cliff and taking away Social Security and Medicare, Nero Obama shows what a liar he really is and offers it up himself. Another sad "I told you so" moment for the low information Obama voting public.
  • #81
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    Did y'all notice in the photo above, Obama looks as if he's taking the pulse of this elderly woman... and laughing like, "You won't need social security... much longer!"
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    @No_Bama Actually, if you ever for a moment stopped burbling out clich├ęs you barely understand and which certainly aren't true, you might have seen this coming. Folks have told your ilk that Mr. Obama is a centrist who is not even close to a socialist for as long as he's been in office. In fact, if you ever took your head out of the dark warm place where you keep it -- and you read progressive news outlets -- you'd know moves like this are no surprise to the left in America.

    But you won't. You may now return to your regularly scheduled partisan hackery.
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    So the only entitlements he wishes to cut are the "entitlements" that many Americans have worked and paid into over several decades? This should prove to America what kind of leader they re-elected. Seniors take note. He would rather a non working parasite get a welfare check and food stamps than a senior citizen get the medical treatment they need or the income they paid into over decades of work.
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