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    Even the very religious can reconcile Evolution and Creationism. It's been done before with the acceptance of the Sun-centered solar system and a few other scientific findings, albeit with resistance. Leave science to scientists and let religion stick to addressing the spiritual needs of people.
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    Yes, they are. The Bible says that Adam was made by God from a pile of mud by shaping it and blowing the breath of life into it and then Eve was made by putting him to sleep and taking one of his rib bones, because Adam was lonely. If you believe in evolution, Eve would have had to come first, wouldn't she?

    If you are going to dispense with that little fairy tale, then you have already turned your back on Christian Creationism. If you are going to say that evolution is the method with which God performs creation, then you may as well call it a new religion, where Adam and Eve never really lived in the Garden of Eden, Noah never built an ark, and Joshua never "fit the battle of Jericho".
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    @Dan_Tien - well said. Yes, there are some discrepancies that I have been unable to come to terms with, but I'm sure I'll have a justification for it by the time the monkey types out the full works of shakespeare with the use of natural selection.

    Actually the one thats sticks me the most is the flood over all the lands.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_...
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    @Dan_Tien Just as a sidepoint- creationism depends on which version of the Bible is being discussed. Can't forget that Lillith was running around creating mayhem before Eve showed up on the scene.

    Think I'll stick with science.
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    I too have seen the results of home schooling and I am very favorably impressed. These kids can actually read, write and think for themselves.
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    I'm with you on this one - My cousin's kids are little angels. Its almost ridiculous how much better they are behaved than typical kids their age. It's made me question some preconceptions I had.
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    @Dan_Tien - If a man, alone in the woods says something, is he still wrong?

    Of course I can't vouch for them when I haven't observed, but does that matter?
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    I seriously doubt if even the most fervent evangelical home schoolers want their kids to grow up stupid. Teaching proper science is critical to schooling a child that is going to be able to thrive in a modern society. This is a good trend.
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    People who can find a middle ground between creationism and biological evolution are cheating themselves. The two are as distinct as oil and water. They are not the least bit compatible with one another from the scientific perspective. Even I can find compatibility between religion and science at a certain level, but not between evolution and creationism or intelligent design. In science instruction teach biological evolution. In religion teach creationism if you want, but don't confuse the two. Creationism is not science.
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    Saying the word evangelical does not mean Christian. Most Christian homeschoolers do so to keep in check what is taught to their children. Leave out the word evangelical and then you are not implying Christian. I would never teach my child from a book that has a picture of Adam and Eve climbing on a dinosaurs back. That's false. Humans did not live on the earth during the time of the dinosaurs. In the Bible it says God created the world in 6 days. Who knows how long a day is to God? It is clearly stated that animals were created first. Dinosaurs were long gone by the time God created man. Also there is adaptation of species. Some Creationist do not believe this, I do. I will never believe we decended from Apes as some evolutionist do. They can hold up partial skeletal remains of an extinct species all they want, I will never believe we decended from it or climbed out of the so called "primordial sludge" and evolved from there.
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    I have no problem with the adaptation of species. I think however that those seven days of creation is predated. I think it is possible that life existed before those seven days of creation. I think there was a long unwritten history between creating the heavens and the earth and that first day.
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    @crusader It also never addressed the topic of life outside of the Garden while it was inhabited and there is no way to know how long that was. I do believe every word of the Bible but but what happened and was not recorded is still a mystery.
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    @crusader
    That's where the question falls, how long is a day to a God who is infinite? Not just the day between animals and humans. Each day could have been time we cannot even imagine.
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    "she was horrified when she opened a homeschool science textbook and found a picture of Adam and Eve putting a saddle on a dinosaur."

    LMAO! Seriously no wonder so many people think Christians are dumb. Not only is that making science ridiculous, but they have just turned the Bible into the Flintstones.

    Now before all the comments flood in from the right understand 1 thing I am a Christian
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    The putting a saddle on a dinosaur made me laugh out loud. I always knew creationists were a special breed of retarded but that goes above and beyond the call of stupidity.
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    I am a creationist but that is stupid. I don't doubt the age of dinosaurs or that they came long before man. I just don't beleive in evolution of man. I do Bible beleive every word of the Bible, it does not say that man was the first life on earth. So I think there was life on earth long before man.
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    @crusader

    Well the evidence doesn't support your beliefs and unfortunately for you, the more radical and outspoken creationists paint you all as stupid.
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    @John_Matrix The evidence although considered fact over theory is not even proven. The so called missing link should still exist, you say evolution doe not stop and many years from now man will be evolved more than now. Why did evolution not continue from the beginning on the so called primordial ooze half between now and when it started and create the missing link in existence today or something between man and ape.
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    @crusader

    There has been evidence of missing links found as you put it. As animals evolve the less evolved counterparts often die out as the more dominant subspecies takes hold. Evolution may not be perfect and answer every single question as of yet but it is founded on extremely strong evidence and therefore valid to he taught and further expanded upon. To take the Bible literally word for word is just asinine. The logistical aspects of the Noah's Ark story alone disproves it in addition to no solid evidence of a world wide flood as described in the Bible and that's just one example of many. To use the Bible and it's stories to teach from a moral standpoint is one thing but evidence and even basic logic alone disproves it in a literal sense.
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    I'm certain that Home Schooling isn't perfect but knowingly sending your kid to a Union Shop where leftwing social engineering takes precedence over a valid Education ain't great either. Some of the Public schools in NYC have an abysmal 26% graduation rate and the Unions STILL don't want them closed. Oy Vey.
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    Yes,don't put your children out there with false information,they have to compete with the rest of the world.
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    The idiots got what they wanted, religious ignorance in a book. If they actually wanted a proper education, they should have asked questions or kept their kids in school with actual educators instead of poisoning their children's minds with religious filth.
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    What ever YOU want to teach your kid in the privacy of your home is of absolutely NO interest or importance to me!!
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    I know a few Creationist homeschoolers, and they are not as stupid or close-minded as the press would have you believe. One of them told me they'd be happy for Creationism to just get air time, and hope that people would voluntarily believe it over Evolution. If you truly believe your cause is just, you don't need to suppress the other side, right?
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    What I always ask bout garden of Eden myth, A lot of begatting happened. With who or what -if Bible is true it might be incest . If evolution is true it might be beastiality . Which is it ? Maybe its because the misogynistic Bible never bothers to mention female children created in adam and eve's family ? Or did they have intercourse with neandertals ?
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    So what do creationists who are struggling to push emerging proof that the Bible is a collection of ancient myths back into a form acceptable to Christians deal with evidence of life within meteorites?

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/03/1...

    It suggests that life did not even originate on earth, that life exists elsewhere and that the Earth and humanity are not unique and central to any divine being.
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    I've noticed that you used reasoning in all of your posts on this thread. I'm an agnostic that is doomed to question Biblical teachings and search for concrete proof to support them. If the Bible is truth and an all powerful being does exist then that being does not owe us an explanation. There is no reason to believe that an all powerful being would be content to place life on just one world.
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    This exactly why vouchers and charter schools are a very bad idea.

    They are a way of teaching 'biblical science' without the scrutiny that afflicts public schools.

    Vouchers are a plan to put tax money into private hands, it's not about education at all. Only the religious right will go along for the possibility of teaching biblical science in schools not subject to constitutional scrutiny.

    The voucher and online school plans are a product of ALEC, and are designed to profit ALEC members.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legisla...

    http://billmoyers.com/episode/encore-united-s...

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    A Fact? man you have to be a true indoctrinated fool

    If man evolved from ape's , why are there still ape's?
    Your Facts arent too good are they!!
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    @Vance1 this is why you needed biology. We didn't evolve from apes. We evolved from ancestral primates that may have looked like apes but are not the same. Btw the only thing different between us and a chimp is a dna sequence and a fully opposable thumb. Why do all animals have noses ears and mouths? Because we are all the same category of animal...mammal.
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    @Vance1 Ever heard of evolutionary lines? Because there is a new one does not require the demise of the previous. Saying that I have to include that there were lines that did die out. As time goes on the blanks get filled in. That's because science is always looking.
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    @Vance1

    Evolution is a fact, and Vance, it is very clear that you don't understand it.

    All you have to do is read about it. Thats it. Learning about it doesn't turn you into satan. Don't worry, you can choose what you believe.
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    Studies have shown home schooled children achieved scores of 84-88% in standardized testing. Children from public schools scored an average of 50%.
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