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  • #10
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    Devalues the relationship between men and women. Causes men to stay locked away in their "man caves" loosing their confidence. On the flip side, men are stupid enough to pay for instant gratification instead of leaving the cave, going into the world and "cave manning" their mate.

    Not saying it is a direct cause of gays, but probably very likely why so many men and women choose to engage in homosexual deviancy because of the company they keep and the lack of confidence while being around the opposite sex.

    This one is all on us fellas.
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    I suppose you have proof of this theory? Because I don't find it insightful at all, I think its the most asinine thing I've ever heard.
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    Homosexual behavior is neither a choice nor deviant. It is normal behavior for a small percentage of humans as well as many other species. Other than the homophobia bit, it's an interesting notion.
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    @Denizen_Kate "it's an interesting notion"
    Key word in that sentence being notion, as this is nothing more than concocted fairy tale. Its right up there with "You'll get hairy palms" or "you'll go blind". The cries of people about masturbation from a bygone era.
    This, and many others like it, is a claim from the Right to legislate something they don't believe in. And for good reason, it sounds much better in the end than, "Well, I don't like what your doing, so we should make it illegal".
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    It cheapens women, and why women allow themselves to be exploited like this I do not understand. I would like to see porn disappear from lack of participation by women!
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    HMMM.....are we saying that women (and men) who do porn are being forced to do it? Same goes for prostitution, gambling, drinking alcohol in excess, doing harmful drugs, driving in a reckless manner and many other forms of reckless behavior. People are being forced to do these things? Who's holding the gun to their heads? Maybe we ought to NOT ban porn and ban the use of guns on the porn sets! Then the women (and men) can just say "hell, no. I ain't doing that" and walk off the set!
    People trying to legislate people to stop doing harmful things to themselves is just plain stupid!
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    Porn harms men more than women, as it can help create sexual disfunctions and misguided ideas about sex in general.

    With that being said, I don't think it should be banned, just as nothing should be banned. People have to decide for themselves what is right for them personally, and a nanny state is not required.
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    Porn doesn't harm women. Abusers harm women. Those who find it engaging view it, those who don't find it engaging or find it offensive shouldn't. Problem is, the people who should not be viewing will view it anyway just so they can bitch about it, and project their personal views on it.
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    How does pornography "harm" women? The concept doesn't make sense. If woman "X" displays herself provocatively how is woman "Y" harmed? Woman "X" has an income from the distributer. Is woman "Y" jealous because nobody would buy her in such a manner? I don't see anything harmful about it. If it offends you avert your eyes.
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    "eliminating gender stereotypes" doesn't have to mean porn. No more Barbie, no more GI Joe, no pants for men, no bras for women.

    I could get into this...

    No pink for girls and blue for boys, only one kind of bicycle, no high heels (women will thank me for that one), no more neckties, only unisex underwear. Unisex bathrooms.
    No more prom dresses or tuxedos.

    etc.
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    In Eurpoe nudity is common in Network TV commercials during primetime. Nudity in magazines is common, and have no age restrictions on their purchase. Now they are considering the effects of porn, after so many years of unrestricted nudity and sexuality explicit advertisements?
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    Most women in porn were abused as children and have a difficult time protecting themselves because their boundaries were destroyed. Porn causes an unhealthy view of women
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    @DaveBostwick Ah....trying to shift away those feelings of guilt? And what about the children forced into the sex industry? Are you going to blame that on women having an unhealthy view of children?
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    Notice the fixation the EU has: nobody's mentioned the "harm" endured by the MEN in porn. A silly debate, nonetheless, as people can find as many workarounds as they like to circumvent whatever Europe's programmers can do in terms of blocking porn. As for the women in porn, they're pretty much exhibitionists who get a kick from the notoriety and the dough. If it's something consenting adults wish to partake in, have at it.
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    There are obvious civil liberty issues here; but I do believe many young woman are drawn to porn for wrong reasons and later terribly regret the decision to enter the sordid industry.
    But by then its too late.
    Their images are out there forever, damaging their future and their esteem.
    But some women enter the business simply because they enjoy sex and attention.
    Porn is also highly addictive and can be an inflammatory component in an already corrupted mind, leading to kidnap, rape and murder.
    Porn can also be therapeutic for couples and singles wanting to invigorate their sex lives. It can be a zesty enterprise in the lives of otherwise balanced people.
    So I have mixed feelings.
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    @Sonny
    I mentioned a couple of them, but economic reasons- they can make quite a lot of money in a short time. There are women who do porn while putting themselves through college or graduate school, then quit.
    Another reason is they simply enjoy sex and the attention of others, like a swinger.
    I am not defending the business. I think many are abused and objectified, but many are not.
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    @GuyFawkes Well it appears to me---that the "right reasons" for getting into porn, are not much better than the "wrong reasons" for doing so....Just my observation, based on what you have said...
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    @Sonny
    'based on what you have said.'
    Sonny, I am merely rendering an opinion.
    I am certainly not the porn industry spokesmodel.
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    @GuyFawkes
    Having said that, check out 'backdoor babes 6'
    For educational purposes, of course :)
    *I'm joking...it's just a joke*
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    Really, I was stationed in Germany in the 70's and I couldn't believe that they openly sold kiddie porn, bestiality and just about any other perversion known to man. While in the legal red light districts, the prostitutes in negligees sat in department store windows where you just pointed out the one you were interested in. It was quite an eye opening experience for a kid from the middle of South Dakota!
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    If we have to compromise with the government, I'd go for banning porn only Germans like. At least the non-hygienic stuff. Ewww.
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    No ones forces women to do porn anymore. All these women get paid pretty well for 30 minutes of banging and Im sure they would do it again. The degrading of women no longer becomes an issue if women volenteer or are getting paid to have sex for porn.
  • #111
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    1. If the only problem is it hurts women they have no basis for banning gay pornography, so they should only be proposing to ban pornography that has women in it.
    2. Banning media because it has stereotypes in it perpetuates stereotypes, you are keeping out a certain portrayal of a group of people, which sends the stereotype that none of them are ever like that. That's just as much of a stereotype. If they want to combat stereotypes they should subsidize forms of media portraying people in ways that combat stereotypes, not ban media that portrays stereotypes.
    3. Feminism is supposed to be about choice. Men can do what women can do and women can do what men can do. They want equality, subsidize pornography focused on the man and marketed towards female customers.
    4. The European Union is slowly turning into a fascist regime. Thank God I live in America.
  • #108
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    It's a job. They choose to do it, and I once heard more than 50% of online activity involves porn. So that says most people accept it and enjoy it.
  • #59
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    It not only harms women, but porn is far reaching. People think it's harmless, but the money, and it's a billion dollar industry, goes into child porn and human trafficking. Who would say, "I want my daughter to be a porn star?" Most are alcohol or drug
    addicted, many are victims of childhood sexual abuse and run aways. Sad lives, to
    say the least. In my opinion, it definitely harms women, girls and kids.
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    If you statement, "Most are alcohol or drug addicted, many are victims of childhood sexual abuse and run aways." were true, the industry would not exist,,

    Most women I know that are in the business, and I know a few, are great people who have great personality's and are fun to be with.

    Most are very intelligent,, I even know one girl wh teaches sunday school.

    For most, it's just a job,, better than working at burger king and more fun.
  • #58
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    Banning "porn" would be next to impossible. The ca. 1948 Arthur C. Clarke story about synchronous broadcasting satellites involved pornography. As it is, to me pornography is violence not sex. The idea that is "harms women" is, in its own way, very sexist. It implies that women do not, or should not, watch or enjoy sex.
  • #55
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    I would like to see commercial porn banned... private porn is a private matter... but there are too many people getting recruited and forced into porn and prostitution. In fact, it makes more money than guns and drug trafficking... With that said, I really don't want the gov't to define pornography... And it does harm women... too many idiots watch that stuff and expect their own women to act like those on the video... perhaps they don't understand that porn is fantasy... and when it comes to marriage, men shouldn't be expending their sexual energies on other women... they should be giving that to their wives. If their sex life with their spouse is that bad, perhaps they need to spend more time working on it. It has been my observation that men who watch porn are the ones who blame their wives for sexual dissatisfaction... Sex is a two-way street, ya know! Explore your own sexuality, not that of others!
  • #116
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    What about women who watch porn?
    And what if the wife doesn't mind? What if she even encourages it? Not everyone has identical relationship preferences. Some people actively seek out a spouse to have an open marriage with. It's personal preference. If the couple agrees to no pornography then it's reasonable for the one to get mad at the other if they catch them with it, but each couple has the right to decide how to run their own relationship.
    As for people expecting women to act like that in the video? Sure, but is that that big of a harm? So some men wind up disappointed in bed because it's never like it is in porn. Most will get over this and realize there's a difference between reality and fantasy.
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    @CommonSense - The same applies as far as I'm concerned. No matter who watches porn, they are, knowingly or unknowingly, very likely watching women and men who are there by force, fraud or coercion... I see nothing good that comes from exploitation and slavery. I'd rather be safe than sorry, and not give my money or support to an industry that exploits people for money... in this case, they rape people and make a profit from it... And while most men might "get over" the idea of porn being real, it is rare that his wife will get over it before he does... and it is very likely that the people they watched act out some fantasy for their viewing pleasure are living the worst nightmare reality imaginable... There is nothing sexy about rape...
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    @DogLady_1
    Rape?
    Rape is against the law. If they were to force people to work in pornography they would be arrested easily.
    "Worst nightmere"? Then get another job. Work at McDonald's or 7-11 instead if it's that terrible. It's true that some porn actors probably would rather have another job, but they choose the greater income over working in a job that doesn't involve sex. If it was really the "worst nightmere" they would quit. It's Europe so I know they have a very generous welfare system so even if they can't find other work they're fine.
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    @CommonSense - Well, that's the problem... these victims are not reporting the rapes... And many porn actors do not keep a penny of the money they bring in... If you could just quit the job, then you are not a slave. There are 3 things that keep a person in slavery: Force, Fraud, and Coercion. There are literally tens of thousands of people who are victims of sexual slavery. We turn a blind eye to it very often because the victim doesn't step up and ask for help, and when help comes, they are too afraid to rat out their captors. here's a good article about what I am talking about: http://www.examiner.com/article/porn-stars-ar...
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    @DogLady_1
    And sexual slavery should be rigorously prosecuted. However you make it more likely not less likely to happen if you ban commercial pornography. Then anyone who wants to do porn even consensually must do so in a black market setting. Then they can't go to the police. It would be preferable to have undercover agents infiltrate legal prostitution and pornography businesses to make sure there is no rape or abuse. To strengthen a sense of porn actors and prostitutes being human beings with rights we should require that these businesses allow unionization and even be able to negotiate union shop or closed shop agreements.
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