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    This is yet another no brainer. Does the GOP think that the Military doesn't know about the billions given to Halliburton for non existent/sub standard services while they went without body armor? Does the GOP think the Military is so stupid they don't know Dick Cheney was the CEO of Halliburton? Does the GOP think our troops have become so stupid they can't figure 2 +2 still equals 4?
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    All my buddies that come back torn up and mangled don't respect the grand ole politicians, they know they're full of bologna
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    No bid contracts existed before Bush and continued after (Obama gave Halliburton a no bid contract). An educated poster would also have known that Cheney did not benefit from Halliburton’s contacts after he took office. All his Halliburton stock options were placed in a blind trust with all profits given to charity.
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    @Yank You know you can take that BS to someone else. When bush/cheney took office Halliburton was the #30 U.S. supplier. they went to number one under Bush/Cheney and it would have been impossible with a draw down treaty in effect when Obama took office for Halliburton to have been replaced. You are a right winger without exception, you never vary from that course and Bush, Cheney are Halliburton are war criminals and traitors to this nation. If you were a patriot you wouldn't be defending them today.
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    @jessejaymes "After becoming president, Mr. Obama continued the attack and promised on March 4 to “end unnecessary no-bid and cost-plus contracts.… In some cases, contracts are awarded without competition.… And that’s completely unacceptable.”

    That was then; this is now. Last week, the Army revealed that KBR, a former subsidiary of Halliburton, was awarded a no-bid contract worth as much as $568 million through next year. This deal was announced only hours after the Obama Justice Department informed the public that it was joining a suit filed by whistleblowers who allege KBR used kickbacks to get foreign contracts."

    http://ww w.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/13/obamas...
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    Well the one thing they have finally realised is that the mercenaries make far more money for doing the job than the military ever will.
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    The military still identifies as conservative, so this report just tells me that the military personnel are just disappointed at the GOP. That is inline with the feelings of most conservatives. Putting McCain and Romney up as the standard bearers of the the GOP has done great harm to our brand. We must think carefully and decisively about the next nominee we choose. Choosing a liberal-lite will not win over those who thirst for true conservatism.

    Democrats, don't be so quick to write our obituary. The GOP is still alive and we are listening to the people. The people want conservatism and we will market that to them. The military is hardly becoming more liberal. So there..
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    @Republican5150 - No, the GOP is not dead. We control 30 governorships (out of 50), the majority of state legislatures, and we control the U.S. House. The leftist media is eager to bury us and hope the American people don't notice. The Democrats won two presidential elections (the last one was an incumbent getting reelected) and suddenly they think that America has gone hard to the left.

    Yeah right.

    Our obituary can't be written because we are here and still alive. We must choose better when we pick someone to be our presidential nominee though. People have to believe that person will stand up for conservative values or they will not support him. Romney didn't lose because he was too conservative, he lost because so many conservative voters stayed home because when they looked into Romney's eyes, a conservative they did not see.

    Democrats can party today, if it makes them feel better. He who laughs last, laughs best, and in 2016 conservatives will be laughing loudest. We have the only plan to restore America to her rightful greatness and we will do America proud.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix wholeheartedly agree. I am not fooled by the left wingers and do not care what they shout at me. I know they are not nearly as committed to their ideologies as I am mine.
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    @Neo_NtheMatrix you never see see stories of left wing groups embracing drug ridden and down trodden areas of say Detroit or Chicago. You never see stories of democraps giving away their salaries to those less fortunate then them or moving some homeless guy into their home so that homeless guy can get on his feet again.

    And the democrats sold the idea of being the middle class saving grace. The people's champions. Funny thing about democraps and left wing communist is they talk a good game but never buy into what they are peddling fully.

    The problem with America is independents. The voter that tries to leave themselves an "out" if it gets too hairy. You should have to choose a side. Right wrong or indifferent.
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    I served in the US Navy for 24 years. During that time I, like most of the military, was lock-step republican. I was intrigued that the only President who pushed for a decent military pay raise was Carter, but I still stayed republican. Once I retired with disabilities, I noticed the GOP pattern: support for the military does NOT mean support for military personnel or veterans. Quite the opposite. They (the GOP) OPPOSED concurrent receipt of disability and retirement pay. They OPPOSE any significant military pay raise. They OPPOSE funding the VA to clear up the backlog of disability claims. They OPPOSE hiring preferences for veterans. Most of my Veteran friends are disgusted with today's GOP.
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    I was under the impression that Tea partiers wanted to cut unneeded taxes and wasteful spending not just budget cuts across the board. Including the military.
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    The did, but the democrats left no choice in the matter and let it play out that way. How hard would it have been to not spend billions on preserving little minnows, lizards, and toads over soldiers?
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    @AlexMIA ............The Obamacrats said they wanted the Cuts to be as painful as possible so the American people would understand the GLORY of Big Govt/Big Union and submit to endless tax slavery.
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    @BossTweed Yes.....they did, and the sheep are now running in terror pointing the finger at the wrong guys!
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    A round of applause for the Tea Party - By screwing with Medicare they have offended the GOP Base of angry old white men. They've offended all women concerned about their healthcare, They've offend all teachers, government workers (try re-entering the country 4 hrs wait times due to sequester layoffs) They've offended the traveling public (TSA cutbacks) They're offended just about every ethnic group, Latinos, AA's etc. And, not the Military. You just can't make this stuff up!
    The GOP is left with a lame choice of candidates for '16 due to Tea Party. Palin, Bachmann, Paul. Hopefully someone more conservative will appear on the scene for Neo to vote for. Those debates should be fun.
    Tea Party Keep up the good work. We love you guys
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    @AlexMIA Yeah, that damned sequester. The way it sent them all to Iraq and Afghanistan without adequate body armor or armor on their vehicles to keep their legs attatched to their bodies when they drive over an ide. The way the damned sequester cut funding to the VA over and over again and we were left with a mess like the Walter Reed hospital. The way the damned sequester voted nearly unanimously against providing job training and additional benefits to our troops. Why, that diabolical sequester did all of this nearly a decade before it even happened. That's how evil it is. It warps the laws of time and space and logic itself so that it makes the things the GOP actually does look badly when scrutinized when we should have been blaming the democrats all along. The way the tricked the GOP into not compromising on a budget and putting up the cuts to the military (most of which never happened and were given fixes last week if you read the news).
    All the while we pay KBR/Halliburton Dick Cheney's buddies billions to trillions to do a job that was traditionally the job of the military itself. We dont even have army cooks any more.
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    I'm not a Republican. And in fact I sometimes vote Democratic. I'm a veteran. The joke among a lot of service members is: "Democrats want a small military, with small budgets, and want to send them all over the world. Republicans want a large military, with big budgets, and don't want to send them anywhere". So excuse me if I doubt the accuracy of the poll. There are ways of slanting a poll to get the results one wants. We see that all the time here at Politix.com
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    The last sentence says it all. and no where to store does it say that support for the Democrats has risen any.
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    Thank you, didn't notice that last sentence and something the establishment Repubs that tend to have close relations with RINO's and progressive moderates need to really pay attention to. Michelle Bachmann over Carl Rove anyday.....
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    Wow there they go with the "isolationism" propaganda line....since when did the definition of isolationism get changed??
    Isolationism is completely closing the society and avoid all contact...including trade, diplomacy, and war.

    What the Tea Party wants, I think, is to stop the illegal,. immoral wars that we wage without a declaration of war from Congress. The Constitution does not authorize war otherwise. And the fact that we are an empire who must control all world affairs seems to fly over most folk's heads.

    These brave soldiers do not want to die so that the Central bank can take over Iraq's economy. They do not want to die securing the mineral rights for some corporation. And I'm sure they hate the idea of battling it out with the same people that the CIA supports and trains in Syria.
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    Psy-ops. The Republicans want to cut the military budget? In whose universe? The Republicans are isolationists? Listen, shouldn't military personnel rejoice at a smaller mission philosophy?
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    Seriously? After how progressive liberals cut military programs left and right and treat the military with disdain and disgust?
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    @Republican5150 The shuttle program was not part of the Military and was scheduled to be shut down before Obama was even a Senator. Try again.
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    I have a stepson in the Air Force. He's been to Iraq, Afghanistan, Oman and Qatar. He has no use for Republicans and will tell you the whole Middle East is a fiasco thanks to our invasion.
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    Being a conservative does not necessarily equate to being a Republican. (More so now than ever.) As I've said often, Demecrats are damn near Socialists and Republicans are Democrat lite.
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    The Tea Party was started by Dr. Ron Paul and his Supoorters back in 2007. They started it because of all the Bush era spending and wars (Iraq/Afghan.). This can be proven by videos up-loaded on YouTube with an up-load date of Dec. 16, 2007 (the 234 anniversary of the Boston Tea Party) of Dr. Paul and his Supporters marching in the streets all across America with banners reading the Tea Party. The Neo-Cons (Rove/Palin) co-oped the new movement. ___ The most donations from active/reserve Military Personnel for the last presidential race (and '08) went to Dr. Paul (something around 65%). I know many, many, many people in the military and they are fed up with the Democrats, Republicans, the Presidents, Congress, and the political system as a whole. The Military knows about the lies they are being fed.
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    Very True. And the libs always ask where was the tea party when Bush was President? RP started the tea party before it was cool. He was pro constitution before it was cool. He was against the wars before it was cool. He was for auditing the fed before it was cool. He was against foreign aid before it became cool. History, if it remains in the hands of historians and does not become the domain of revisionist bureaucrats will show that Paul was the only member of Congress in this era who was not for sale. The degree of support he received from a diverse population of enthusiasts was enough to make the Republican establishment bar his delegates from their convention and change some of their rules to justify their actions. He was the voice of common sense in an era of insanity. Regardless of party, most of Congress has been bought and paid for by special interests.
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    The GOPs support has never really been for military personnel, but rather for the corporations of the defense contract industry. If they would announce common sense cuts in spending on expensive equipment that isn't needed, and instead pour that money into the VA, this wouldn't be a story.
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    Soldiers are some of the most rational people you can find.

    Teabaggers, not so much.

    A lot of conservative ambition is contrary to the wants and needs, not so much of the of the military as an institution, but to soldiers as individuals.

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    "According to the report, MT believes the decline is at least partially due to the influence of "pro-isolationist" I beg to differ. Ron Paul was incorrectly labeled an isolationist as well, yet he received more donations from active military than any other candidate. Our military personnel realizes that they should be used to defend our country, not be policemen in some third world countries, that don't even want us there in the first place. Taking care of matters at home has never looked so good and it is a foreign policy we can actually afford.
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    @ErnestPayne So enlighten me and tell me how Afghanistan, Iraq, Viet Nam and Korea were ever a threat to our nation and those wars were in defense of our country? Why is that we can secure S Korea's border but not our own? Yeah you are right we have 173,000 troops around the globe in 150 different countries but we don't act as policemen of the world.
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    @IMAQT None of those countries were ever a threat to america, or anyone else, for that matter. The vast majority of the countries have an american "military presence" only as embassy guards or training units. The overwhelming majority of those troops are not combat troops.
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    @ErnestPayne "The overwhelming majority of those troops are not combat troops. "
    Huh? Tell that to the vets we sent to Afghanistan, Iraq, Viet Nam and Korea in the last 60 years that they were not combat troops.
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    I think that it has less to do with Tea Party influence and more to do with military personnel having believed in the GOP's messages only to be disappointed for doing so.
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    The GOP only care about the military when it makes political sense to do so. The democrats too, for that matter. The military shouldn't expect anything from either party because neither side cares about the personnel. They care FAR more about the $$$ and profit being made from being at war continuously.
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    we're done. Congress said bush./cheney outright lied to them. Clinton did not get 4,500 of our kids killed and 35,000 maimed for the profits of Halliburton. Bush/Cheney did. End of story. Babble to yourself.
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    Blaming lack of military support for the GOP on budget-cutting and "isolationism" (a charge spouted endlessly by neocons on the Left and Right) is absolutely false.

    Ron Paul, the biggest budget-cutter and non-interventionist of them all, received more donations from individual soldiers to his presidential campaigns than every candidate combined.
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