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    People have the human right for wealthy or paid for politicians to turn their state into a nuclear dump or have all of Mr Nestles empty bottles. Anyone that disagrees is merely jealous of the wealthy, I know this must be true because the earl-ites and Koch Soakers say so every chance they get.
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    "Manufactured demand" threshold could become lower after we right-less humans are fracked and dumped out of safe water supply in the name of profits for a few.... just rambling out loud, pay me no never mind.
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    @DogLady_1 Rejoice. Remember, anyone that is really wealthy is that way because the earl-ites and Koch Soakers will tell you that they are much smarter than less wealthy people who clearly need to be extinct.
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    greed is getting far worst than ever before, whats next try and sell us air? yet the way our gov keeps bringing in millions of un needed people year after year we may not have water to go around.
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    I am sure Brabeck would charge us for breathing air if he could work out a way to do it. Water, food and shelter should be basic human rights. Oh but sorry I forgot, money is now God and greed is always good.
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    Just ask the citizens of Paraguay when bechtel moved in and privatized water. They actually told those folks they didn't have a right to collect the water off of their roofs.
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    @jond414 But Bechtel is the largest construction and engineering company in the United States. I thought as they are people too they always do the right thing?.
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    @frigginhell They do the right thing for shareholders.....not so much for the little people. Seeing some of your prior posts, I know you were being sarcastic.
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    @GuyFawkes Yeah, won't be long until the New World Order owns and controls everything, including your own body. Obama and about every other politician is pushing for that. Corporate owned Socialism.
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    @TheHandsomeOne you are correct on that...just goes to show the power of the almighty dollar...next it will cost money just to breathe
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    ...walk in...the...*crash*
    I was making a statement but was momentarily hip-mo-tized by your avatar-
    *where did she come from?*
    wow.
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    Well in cities people have a utility bill, a value is placed on how much water is consumed. So that seems like a commodity. Thank God I don't live in one. I have two natural springs on my property and also a well so I have my own water. Try and charge me for it and I'll show you I also have my own gun. Everyone regardless of where they live should have access to water, even if they have to pay for it. Come to think of it Nestle chocolate bars aren't a human right, I don't think I like the idea of paying for them. So I won't.
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    @TheHandsomeOne I guess I do think it is a human right. If your willing to pull the Second Amendment card, if I am I mean, then I guess I do believe it's a right.
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    @Calfkiller Well, there are countless examples of think tanks from both sides working to subvert common sense and human decency on this subject.
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    Interesting comments here... so if water service is not a commodity, why am I paying for it every month? And my Evian and Perrier is free, too? It's those damn French causing trouble again!
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    Hear hear. Just a bunch of overly emotional jealous wankers who are pissed off they are not in charge of nestle because they would be making the EXACT same comments if they were being paid what he's being paid.
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    You're paying for the pipes and the system that set up to get that water easily to your house, not the water itself.
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    @Saving_USA right, just as I'm paying for the car and system to get the pizza to my house, not the pizza itself.

    I also think pepperoni is a human right.
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    As I've said before, a "right" isn't a right if it makes demands on other people's time or resources because at that point one's "right" becomes another's obligation.

    On top of that, at any given moment, the Earth's supply of fresh water is finite and subject to market forces whether we want to admit it or not.

    On the Great Plains--
    “The Ogallala supply is going to run out and the Plains will become uneconomical to farm,” Brauer is quoted as saying.“That is beyond reasonable argument. Our goal now is to engineer a soft landing. That's all we can do.”

    “The problem,” he told The Telegraph, is that in a brief half-centure we have drawn the Ogallala level down from an average of 240 feet to about 80.”
    http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display....

    The Liberal State of Oregon seem to think they own it and are entitled to get paid for every droop drank.

    Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His Property
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/oregon-ma...
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    "The Liberal State of Oregon seem to think they own it and are entitled to get paid for every droop drank. Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His Property http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/oregon-ma... " - This is exactly why I refuse to comment on links from right wing propaganda states. CNS "News" would have you believe that my great home state of Oregon is jailing this poor schmuck for collecting a little rainwater. In fact he had constructed two 10-foot dams and one 20-foot dam, and had enough water stored up to fill 20 Olympic-sized pools. He also constructed boat docks to run boats in the reservoirs and stocked them with fish for recreational fishing. This man was not collecting a little rain water to drink he was convicted of constructing 3 illegal dams from channels that would have flowed into a local river. Something like this would be illegal pretty much anywhere. Here's the real story - http://www.kval.com/news/local/Eagle-Point-ma... . CNS "News" - Typical right wing reporting consisting of lies, half-truths and distortions.
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    @PNWest-- What's your point? He wasn't thrown in jail because of violations of building codes designed to address the safety concerns of dams. He was thrown in jail because of "unauthorized use of water." (from your citation)

    Which means... Oregon considers water to be their property, which was the point of my inclusion of the story in my post.

    But since you bring it up... I noticed that your link doesn't give his side of the story. He claims that the water he was collecting wasn't "free-flowing."

    “The withdrawal said the stream and its tributaries. It didn’t mention anything about rainwater and it didn’t mention anything about snow melt and it didn’t mention anything about diffused water, but yet now, they’re trying to expand that to include that rain water and they’re using me as the goat to do it,” Harrington (said).
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    @Bobolinsky My point is that CNS "News" posted a grossly misleading article. Typical for right wing propaganda sites like that. The CNS article was headlines "Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail -- for Collecting Rainwater on His Property" which is certainly a gross distortion of what he was convicted of. I guess you don't know the difference. You think the CNS article was "fair and balanced" I'm sure. The KVAL report told the real story - the man was jailed for 3 illegal reservoirs which he had pled GUILTY to running twice before this trial. It is only on the 3rd conviction that this man was jailed. There truth and then there's right wing truth.
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    @PNWest-- It's a gross distortion? How so?

    The water in his reservoirs was collected rainwater and he was thrown in jail because of it. As far as I can tell, the State of Oregon isn't disputing that.

    In addition, his guilty pleas, paying of fines and serving of jail time suggest that he isn;t disputing that he broke a law that is highly suggestive that the State of Oregon considers water to be a commodity. It suggests that he disagrees with the law.

    IOW- This is a case of civil disobedience. Now granted, he's being civilly disobedient in defense of private property rights which the Left is doing everything it can to destroy, but surely you can see that.
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    @Bobolinsky The story speaks for itself. He pled guilty twice. Bottom line was that this guy was capturing all of the water that fell upstream of his property, not just that which fell on his property. http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/08/wa... Believe what you want. CNS News is just another right wing propaganda outlet and I called them out for a misleading story. There's enough information posted on this thread for anyone who is interested to look into the facts and see what the real story is.
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    Nestle's track record on human rights is horrific. From the 60s 70s when they sent people dressed like doctors/nurses into African countries to push their baby formula (knowing full well that there was contaminated waters and breast feeding was better) to their efforts that continue with chocolate (see documentary: the dark side of chocolate: http://thedarksideofchocolate.org/ ). Assuming this comment was not taken completely out of context, this guy embodies all that is evil in the corporate world.
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    He looks like a used car salesman to me lol. I think water should be a right and growing food should be a right whether you can afford a home or not. I do not think these companies or anyone should have the right to own tons of property with the population the way it is today. I think people should be able to have a place to live and grow food before any company can own lots of land. We are all born to this planet and these pieces of work do not need to keep us in servitude just to have a place to park our selves regardless of our financial status.
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    Has anyone told the Nestle guy, Peter Brabeck, any of the following.

    Dope will destroy your mind.
    Alcohol will destroy your brain and liver.

    Education is the best choice for everyone.

    I have no idea what is wrong with the fool. But making ignorant statements in public is just stupid. So what is his excuse?
  • #143
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    Let's qualify my vote....everyone has a right to water. But, where they get the water may be an issue. They have no right to go on my property and get water without my permission. They have no right to get water from a well that they did not drill unless the owner permits it. But, they can get water at any public access. They can drill a well on their own property.
    But, one thing is for sure...NESTLE NOR ANY OTHER ENTITY HAS A RIGHT TO CONTROL WATER....PERIOD. Certainly the government may protect water sources or limit public utility usage in times of water shortage, but they do it for We The People.
  • #119
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    Oh here we go again.
    a human right...LOL
    Just like a home, a car, an I phone, food stamps, voting with out an i.d., Oh My Gosh!!!
    I am completely sick of this crap!!!
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