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    He did not mean, put *all* U.S. Muslims under surveillance, just put more resources on it. There are plenty of leads to investigate before they spin their wheels and start harassing innocent people.
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    "“Police have to be in the community, they have to build up as many sources as they can, and they have to realize that the threat is coming from the Muslim community and increase surveillance there,”"
    He didn't some Muslims, or a few, or even point out which ones. He said Muslim and that means all, unless he asserts otherwise.
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    @Fishbone345 here is another quote from King for context:

    "I think we need more police and more surveillance in the communities where the threat is coming from, whether it’s the Irish community with the Westies [an Irish-American gang in New York City], or the Italian community with the mafia, or the Muslim community with the Islamic terrorists."

    Back in the day, it was not possible to put all Italians and Irish under surveillance - there were millions of them in New York. Besides, most of the cops were Irish, according to lore. So, basically, he's talking about adding more snitches and more Musim and bilingual cops, maybe an agent provocateur or two.
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    And how do you define the innocent? The individual? The groups? Let's monitor all the Chechens. How about the Saudis? The gays? The Hispanics? The leprechauns? You? Where does it start? Where does it end?

    It ends with a choice. Give into fear and take away freedom or celebrate freedom and unite as a nation. We can't have both. We are fighting ghosts. We are fighting ideas. There is no single weapon to fight an enemy like this without slaughtering millions of innocents - note slaughtering does not have to mean killing. It can be the slaughtering of a lifestyle or a belief.
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    @Firestorm Note to media: Using gays and leprechauns and @Ryuo in the same sentence did not create a relationship that Ryuo is gay, gays are leprechauns, or Ryuo is a gay leprechaun.
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    Slippery slope there King. The answer is NOT government protecting us, but each individual protecting themselves and accepting that life has some risks involved, especially life where a little freedom still exists.

    On another note, computers and software programming already have most people under 24/7 surveillance.
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    First the Muslims, the the Christians, then the gun owners and finally anyone that doesnt agree with them.....and so it goes that all freedom is stamped out.
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    Seems to me they have already won. They can sit back and watch us spend ourselves to death and nudge us once in a while when we doze off just to let us know they're still there.
    We are trying to politely fight a ruthless enemy.
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    You can't take away rights of others because of a few extremist. This has been my point all along with the war on gun control. Why punish me for what someone else did? There are good Muslim people here in the US.
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    Then, why won't the good Muslims turn in the radical Muslims who move within their mosques? Are these good Muslims not American citizens? Do they have a responsibility to that citizenship?
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    I agree 100%, what we need is citizens involved in looking at the actions of their neighbors and people in the community. Years ago this worked, then the word "Snitch" was uttered and we all stopped telling the police anything going on in their neighborhood. The Police cannot do it without our help, pick up your phone and call in any suspicious activities.
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    @seedtick Same reason good whites have not turned in the white spree killers, which, asides from 9/11, account for much, much more American deaths. Probably a combination of good whites not hanging out with bad whites, and bad whites appearing to be perfectly normal until they go on their kill spree. Do you think killers go around the neighborhood screaming their guilt for everyone to hear? They take as much precaution to hide it as possible.
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    It's not like we are in a war with Muslims or anything. There isn't a large group of Muslims committed on destroying us. No need to worry about them at all
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    What's to understand? White people aren't terrorists, they are fighting against oppression. Only brown people can be terrorists right?
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    @oldman75
    Gas station Attendent: I am starting to pick up on your sarcasm.

    Richard Heyden: Well, I should hope so, because I'm laying it on pretty thick.
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    Maybe to ease everyones fears about them, and to take themselves off any govt. watchlist, they can explain to people like me why, if the united states is the great satan like they say it is, with all of our decadence, pornography and immoral behaviour, why did they come here in the first place? Was it to convert the infidel? If so I would hope they are on some watchlists. Even though it was obvious these two in boston weren't. Even though putin sent us a memo saying HE was worried about them. If putin thought they were bad apples why didnt we? I suspect political corectness had something to do with it, this countries achilles heel, that our enemy exploits so well.
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    Actually it did work pretty well. Just as Eisenhower's massive roundup and deportation of illegal aliens did during Operation Wetb@ck. But the real danger in this country comes from the embedded liberal enemy, not Muslims.
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    How about surveillance of our leaders, banks and intelligence agencies too. Oh wait , you can't. Barry just repealed provisions of the stock act that made that possible.
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    Uhm, when last I checked, we still had religious freedom, and that doesn't change because of deranged extremists. If so, we would outlaw Christianity because of Westboro Baptist Church.
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    Muslims have been under surveillance since 2001. We had our university Islam group infiltrated by an FBI agent, who then contacted us wanting details of every suspicious member. Sorry, bro, none of our members are suspicious. If they were, we would have contacted you already. Get lost.

    Last week my wive's brother accidentally bought a stolen phone on craigslist. The phone was being returned to the owner; however, it was with a friend. He was in contact with the owner who was 100% cool with it. An FBI agent and police officer then conducted a sting operation on an item he was selling. When he arrived to sell the clothing, they revealed they are investigators. They then insisted they had to come inside the home to retrieve the phone. Unfortunately, he let them inside his home. Who knows if it's bugged or if they just wanted to have a quick look around.

    Also, my wife's and my own Islam-related websites receive significant more government IP hits (347% more, to be precise) than my non-Islam related. These are websites that advocate peace and justice. Go figure. Trust me, Muslims are under plenty of surveillance, even this one, whose family has been part of America for hundreds of years. And my wife who speaks better English than she does Arabic.

    We hold rallies (you know like, stop terrorism, bring peace to Islam, stop the Israel/Palestine conflict, anti-gitmo, that kind of evil-thinking pro-terrorism stuff.) We are very active in our community (hold fundraisers and events.) And we are still subject to surveillance. Are our wires tapped? House bugged? Hey, maybe one of our friends are an FBI agent. It's a very, very legitimate fear for American Muslims, unfortunately.

    I am an American as much as any other American. I hunt. I fish. I came from rural Ohio. I have a garden and I lead a community garden. I pay taxes. I even like fast food. I have a common name. I am both employed and self-employed. I vote. I signed up for the draft. I donate to our troops. Yes, I support our troops, but not necessarily the cause.
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    While we're at it, Pete, let's investigate Baptists (WBC), Southerners (KKK), evangelicals (clinic bombings and assassinations), Scientologists (dirty tricks, vexatious litigation, harassment), FLDS (child rape), Christian Science (child abuse and neglect, negligent manslaughter), Jehova's Witnesses (trespassing, harassment), snake handlers, etc. etc.
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    Typical Congressman spend more money. How about expedited prosecutions with harsh sentences not catering to them in some Cuban resort.
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    The fact that an individual is of the Muslim faith doesn't mean, by definition, that he is a terrorist, or even has sympathy with them. Mr. King is arguing apples and oranges. There are terrorist organizations that exist in the US that have nothing to do with the religious faith of the individuals in them or those who sympathize with them.

    All it takes to be a terrorist is for someone to have an agenda and a little knowledge of explosives. An agenda can be anything; it doesn't have to be religious. It isn't hard to gain a little knowledge of explosives if one wants to do so.

    What Mr. King is advocating sounds like Fascism, where neighbor reports neighbor to the "authorities".
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    Next up.....put all kids who are about to flunk out of college under surveillance, put all kids that play violent video games under surveillance, put all kids who smoke pot under surveillance, put all impressionable kids who have older brothers under surveillance, put all high-school wrestlers under surveillance, put any one smart enough to get a scholarship under surveillance, put all 19 and older kids under surveillance, put all 18 and younger kids under surveillance...........
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    HMM....can we shackle a christian to each muslim when we deport them? That would allow them to get to know each better and eliminate the child molesters at the same time!
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    @TheJimmy but, good idea. Can we shackle a jew to the muslim to the christian.....now that would be funnier than the 3 stooges......(put the christian in the middle...)
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    If someone said that because of Eric Robert Rudolph and the Hutaree Militia all Christians should be under surveillance, their ignorance and bigotry would be on par with that of Rep. Peter King.
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    Difference being that because the U.S. is a mostly Christian nation, anti-Christian and anti-religion forces in general would be more willing to do that than they will be to monitor Islamics.
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    @Real4WheelDrv That's ridiculous. We should be willing to monitor extremists of any sort if there is real evidence that they are inclined to violence... religion and ideology are irrelevant. Those who want to use terror attacks as an excuse to single out peaceful people because their different, should be made to feel ashamed of their bigotry.
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