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    He is Muslim and they are just trying to avoid heat on the Muslims. They would probably be all for it if they could get away with it. Look how they act in their own countries. They stone their women, some of the wealthier men take on boys as sex slaves, they beat their wives, sell off their children, etc......
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    @sdfgs Really! So it is ok for a person to actively hate Christians and kill people because of religion but it apposing such behavior is being a bigot now days?
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    @Fiona7 I've spent many years studying history, particularly the ancient world. If you would like to know what you're talking about then read some books, I'm not here to teach people.
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    @PopapillRush No they didn't, they just said the wouldn't perform the service. Did not here either of them denouce the brother or their actions. This is just a veiled PR move, nothing more, nothing less...
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    @No_Bama "I would not be willing to do a funeral for him," said Imam Talal Eid of the Islamic Institute of Boston, a group that often arranges funerals. "This is a person who deliberately killed people. There is no room for him as a Muslim. He already left the fold of Islam by doing that. In the Quran it says those who will kill innocent people, they will dwell in the hellfire." That was it I do believe.
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    They need to do what they think is right; not base their decision on what others think. My belief makes me think that they should give him their religious burial. "Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do" and "Revenge is the Lord's". I don't know if they believe that way though.
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    Quran (2:191-193)- "and slay them wherever you find them, and drive them out of
    places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non Muslims."

    Quaran-( 8:12)- I will cast terror into the hearts of those who deliver. Therefore strike off their heads and every fingertip of them."

    Quran-( 8:39)-"and fight with them until there is no more fitna ( disorder) and Religion should be ONLY for Allah."
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    Let me add some.

    "Have ye saved all the women alive?... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

    And...

    "If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel: Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."
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    @Saving_USA ...The Qu'ran is not speaking of God or the Lord, it is speaking of ALLAH. Why is it so hard to see that?...They are Muslims, they adhere to Muslim Laws, Sharia Law... Get it? Did Christians cause 911? Didn't think so. Please do not
    compare the two, it's an insult to Christians and Jews everywhere!!!
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    @Cheenoguy ...No, because there is none. If you are comparing it to the OT, everything changed after the birth of Christ. They are still living in the year 650!
    They worship Allah and adhere to the Qu'ran and Sharia Law. There is no similarity
    now. They still ride camels and have contributed nothing to modern society and never will, except death and destruction. That's what they are taught, it is what they
    believe and practice. Get it?!
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    Remove his head first. Then put his body in a woodchiper....hit grind on high...put body chips in plastic....send it to his fu...ula mother!!!! Send the head to his fu.....ula father,tell him all hell broke up!! No head on body....means his son went to hell. Salami cum bacon to them all!!!
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    If I am correct he should have been boxed and covered in 24 hours under Muslim beliefs?Since that also did not happen ,will he miss out on the virgin's he was promised on the other side?
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    but then again if its a real problem they're having trouble finding someone to do the service, I know some United States Marines that would love to do it. ;-)
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    Anyone who performs or attends this burial is going to be watched by the government & hated by the people. I really could care less:( But I do see the Catholic church is still having funerals honoring their child molesters.
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    I'm not a Muslim, so far be it for me to say what an Islamic Cleric should or should not do. I do know the Catholic religion refuses burial in Consecrated Catholic Cemeteries to people who commit suicide. I don't know if they also deny a Requiem Mass to those folks or not. So there is precedent in religions for denial of funeral rites, etc. for some people.
    These clerics should be applauded for their courage and convictions and speaking out publicly. It gives people like me faith that not all Muslims condone these sorts of acts. I will also keep those Clerics in my prayers that nothing should happen to them on account of their courageous stance and their speaking out in public against acts of terror! Politix: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US THIS STORY!!! It touched me deeply!
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    The U.S. Government should put him in a pine box, fill it with melted lard, seal the lid, and bury it underneath a pigpen. That's the proper burial for Muslims that use their faith to justify murder. The Westboro Baptist Church members should be interred in whorehouses in Nevada. Anyone who hides behind their faith to justify hate crimes deserves the opposite of respect of their faith.
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    @openurmind we'll find out when the surviving one goes to trial. In a surprising move, they are doing the right thing and trying him as a US citizen with 4th amendment rights and everything.
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    Guilty until proven innocent. Gotta love such a spineless and apparently unforgiving religious group. Makes me want to invite them all over to a ceremonial BBQ of cloven hoofed dead animal meat while my intense emerald green eyes gaze upon their women and children.
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    @Antony Let's talk about that over a 200 pound pig I got cooking in the ground and lots of beer, unless you want stronger spirits.

    btw... you're talking out the side of your neck
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    @TheHandsomeOne You can inform yourself and google if you wish. Islam restricts only the pig out of the commonly eaten hoofed mammals.
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    He doesn't, but this could actually work to discourage future attackers. Knowing that they won't get a Muslim funeral might cause second thoughts. The whole hell thing might make them reconsider as well.
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    @Cheenoguy Why would going to Detroit make them reconsider? JK, but if they're so religious they'd be willing to die... the idea of hell probably will scare them away.
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    @Ironicguy
    Yes but if their leaders (even if in the west) are telling them that terrorism that results in the death of innocents is a jihadist act that gets you into paradise but rather a hell worthy offense AND see that idea supported when someone does so then their weak minds might be plied in a different direction. This is by no means the end of Islamic terrorism but it is a step that can only help.
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    @Cheenoguy definitely not the end, and probably not a step in the right direction either. Unless maybe they come to the conclusion that Muhammad was a warmongering pedophile. but like you said the people who think murder would be an acceptable way to heaven probably couldn't deduce red and blue make purple. So I'm sure the head of terrorist cells and extremist groups will find a way to make this look appealing, to these weak minded people.
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    The religious congregations can do whatever they feel is proper. For me I'd like to see Tamerlan Tsarnaev and any other terrorists who attack Americans chopped up and fed to pigs. However this is America and we are more civilized than that. Turn the body over to his next of kin and let them make whatever arrangements they want.
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    What kind of religion will forsake one of their own. Yea, sounds like something to join alright..... If you are insane. Wait, it's coming together now.
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    " forsake one of their own"
    Yeah I don't think they're supposed to do that. I don't think that's in the instructions.
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    Just yesterday, people were complaining that Muslims don't do enough to denounce terrorism. Today, they've gone too far. Islamists can't win, can they?

    From their perspective, he turned his back on Islam first. Every time an act of terror is committed in their name, it breeds more hate and violence against them. His acts in the name of God are a very insult to that name.
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