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    And in other news: People don't like having their money confiscated from them to give to people who didn't earn it and don't deserve it.
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    Bingo........You win the Toaster! Jerry Brown signed the Dill Act which Unionized pubic empl when he was Gov. the first time around. He created the extinction grade excessive Pension Tsunami Calif is facing and is gloating about the horrific impact on the once most Prosperous State in the Union.

    You have to be a REAL Sick Ticket to even admit to BEING a Calif variety of Democrat, let alone actually VOTING for one.
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    Absolutely, it is also a similar situation between MD, DC, and VA. A lot more businesses are enticed to set up shop in VA due to their lower taxes, right-to-work state status, and pro-business ideals.
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    Arizona, Nevada, Oregon and Washington are thriving with all the educated refugees flowing in from California. Way Way better to take vacations in the beautiful Calif Mountains and on the Beaches than to stick current and future generations of your family with more individual multi million dollar Public Empl Pensions than in most all of the other American States combined. What kind of caring parent would want to do that to their KIDS?
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    Absolutely. New York, California, Massachutesass and a few other socialist states are driving their citizens away with their never ending tax increases and mis-management of said tax receipts. New Jersey changed from high taxing socialist democrat governorship to a republican. New Jersey had been one of those states whose people were fleeing. Also, recently there are TV ads saying that Buffalo NY ihas now lowered taxes and become "business-friendly". High taxes and high government regulation is socialism. It is un-American and needs to be STOPPED now everywhere. "A man deserves to keep most of the fruits of his labor" ~ Locke.
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    I agree with this article philosophically (i.e. I believe the less gov intervention in business the better) and also believe the facts and statistics bear this argument out. My job had me move from TX, to DC to NY in the past 4 years, and in my experience I have seen taxes grow dramatically, while gov services provided remain about the same.

    I think the "blue" fiscal policies are driving business owners out if their states.
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    yes ca is pushing citizens out,as well as a lot of business,funny thing though our state gov attracts and caters to third world folks giving away more than they could make in their home lands while taking from citizens.
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    @wayne2453 not going to happen. there is nothing but rewards in that bill. what they call enforcement background checks and back taxes all have a way out to have it all cleared.

    now there is a real bill coming that is all about holding to the broken promises made by dems in 86,the whole reason for the mass invasion was the dems fought tooth and nail to never keep the promises made,showing they never had intentions of enforcing any of the laws.
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    @tomincali also the gang of 8's bill sets the stage for the next amnesty they all know will take place do to they will go against all laws they voted for and written in the bill,their bill will have the numbers we have now look as low as the under 3 million the 86 mess judging by their history.
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    Wow and it took Capt, beam me up Scotty, Moonbeam how many years to figure this all out? Ala has had a lower unemployment rate compared to the national average for years because of the great incentives for businesses to move here. We have Hyundai, Honda, Mercedes, Toyota Motor Manufacturing, Monsanto/Solutia, 3-M, steel plants, NASA and Boeing to name a few. The Tennessee River in north Alabama is dotted with huge plants and factories because of the river and rail transportation that is in place to move raw material and then finished products.
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    You might think that as the last remaining Calif manufacturers close their doors or relocate to save themselves the horrific Traffic nightmare should improve. But, for every middle class citizen who must refugee to another State to make a decent living at least two new benefit and service starved Illegals sneak in to take their place.
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    Democrats and Republicans are both great pretenders. Democrats pretend that they protect the little guy and Republicans pretend they don't tax and spend.
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    People and companies have been voting with their feet in increasing numbers for years. The rate is only accelerating. The states that are growing have at least one of two characteristics, low taxes and right to work laws. California is being hit especially hard with continuing migration to Texas and Nevada by many of its highest income producers.
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    YES Mexifornia is driving folks out with their over regulation and highly taxation policy's , They have now crossed the line and are indeed the gay ok, welfare society...a ruined state
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    It's why I left NY State and moved to Virginia a LONG time ago. Absolutely this is a fair assessment of tax and spend. The only reason I go back every once in a blue moon is to see family and if I had it my way, that wouldn't even happen at all. NY, CA, MD, MA, CT, etc. All tax and spend liberal zealot states that I would rather avoid at all costs.
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    You mean to tell me that high taxes affect the decisions made by businesses and individuals? Say it ain't so! Now let's apply this to the highest corporate tax rate in the world and wonder why companies like Apple can legally do what they can to do business elsewhere. Perhaps if we had lower rates..we just may get more revenue. Even JFK knew this.
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    Yes, I do agree. In states like Arkansas the tax rate is low and the state offers great incentive packages including màtching start up costs and more if the company or industry promises to stay for an agreed upon amount of time.
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    California is loosing population of higher earners and the business are also moving out, recipient is Texas with no state income tax and Texas is taking the businesses because they do have opportunities for businesses and lower tax rates. The employees are also moving because of lower wages. Texas has fewer union workers also, which is a lower cost for labor.
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    everyone i know who left ca and went to tx has done 100% better . the lower cost of living more than makes up for wages.

    just have to get used to real weather.
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    @Thunderchicken
    I met a dude who moved here to Oregon, from Arkansas, just last month. He said he came from a town of a little under 2,000. Last year, in his llittle town, the Klan hung two Black men from a bridge! And a 16 year old got away with shooting his own father in the back of the head because he came out as Gay! What a wonderful place to live!
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    @Keyjo

    And I've worked in both states off and on for the past thirty years. I'll believe my experience over your dude thank you.
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    SC - our home for, soon, about half the year. I hate winter and the people are so nice and friendly. SC does have a sales tax, DE doesn't) but as long as we live primarily (6 months plus X amount of days) we pay DE taxes, but on the other hand, if we become SC residents, our property taxes will be cut in half. It's a dilemma.
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    @Keyjo So what? Crap like that happens in every state. And Oregon, well it's full of Oregonians and they are almost as wacky as the Wash. State people. Great wines though.
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    Speaking from personal experience...YES. Just drive through any part of upstate NY to see this. If it wasn't for NYC, NYS would have lost population in the last census
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    Exactly. If New York could split into western and eastern New York I think it would pass by a sizable vote! My grandparents lived in western upstate New York. Everyone hated the eastern shore crowd. Why wouldn't they? They paid the high taxes on food, gas, etc. and lived in poor farming communities.
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    The states with productive natural resources like oil and gas are going to have lower tax rates for their citizens and more services.

    When my wife and I retired we wanted milder weather and a low crime rate. Housing affordability and low taxes were important. We managed find a state with no income taxes and mild weather with crime rate and housing prices about the same as our previous location.
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