• #4
    Parents: Stop buying caffeinated products for your kids!

    Government: Stop trying to micromanage our lives!

    "It is not the business of government to make men virtuous or religious, or to preserve the fool from the consequences of his own folly. Government should be repressive no further than is necessary to secure liberty by protecting the equal rights of each from aggression on the part of others, and the moment governmental prohibitions extend beyond this line they are in danger of defeating the very ends they are intended to serve." -Henry George
  • #73
    DogLady_1: I agree. I think that parents need to take much more responsibility for their childrens' eating habits. Government interference will never stop people from harming themselves with food or drink. The only thing that will is education about nutrition and an open discussion about the potential harms of certain products: persuasion not compulsion.
  • #11
    I don't drink coffee other than my once a week Cappuccino that I have to trick my system into believing we haven't quit. Caffeine is the number one addiction in America. Worse than heroin. I don't care what they do about it except I'm in favor of legalizing all drugs. Let the idiots kill themselves. We're overpopulated as it is. Little self thinning of the herd wouldn't be opposed by me.
  • #65
    Spoken in a movie Nazi accent, "Yewww vill bee zent to ze re-education camps for theez insubordination! Don't yeww know zee Nanny State knowz vhat is best for you?"
  • #31
    I have no problem regulating in in foods and drinks where it's put in high concentrations...but leave my bleeping coffee alone, damn it!!!!!
  • #22
    As Harry Truman would say,the buck stops here! Coffee is natural. What is putting idiots in the hospitals is the over consumption of all these new high energy-junk drinks. These products should be regulated by uncle weeblely sam. LEAVE NATURAL COFFEE ALONE!!!!!!
  • #7
    People, please, mind your own business. Once upon a time people understood that busybodies didn't have enough to keep themselves occupied. They need to go volunteer where they can't do any harm, like the library.
  • #13
    @NolanVoyd Yeah, I thought about that too. The hospital? Oh God no, they would be second guessing the doctors and nurses. The animal shelter perhaps?
  • #54
    @stepped_in_it Excellent idea! That would keep them busy, but then they might just want to join the food police in banning fast food!
  • #20
    Caffeine has been a controlled substance for many years. The amount of caffeine in soda and coffee has been regulated for a long time, but energy drinks are sold as a "nutritional supplement" and thus are not under those regulations.
  • #2
    "public health advocates insist energy drinks - sales of which have more than doubled in the last five years - have led to around 30 deaths over five years"

    Now are those from just plain energy drinks, or are they from energy drinks mixed with other items?
  • #5
    That's the problem isn't it? There is not enough information there for anyone to make an informed decision about anything. All we know is another advocacy group has decided the sky is falling and the proper reaction to the "crisis" is a kneejerk ban on caffeine for everyone. I am so tired of this busybody nonsense.
  • #9
    The deaths were caused by children drinking large cans of energy drink, not mixed with anything... Each can has more than twice the caffeine recommended for safe use for children. There are even more deaths from using energy drinks as a mixer...
  • #18
    @DogLady_1 I could find no cased of energy drinks being called the sole reason for the caffeine poisoning. The closest I could find was the FDA saying in 5 deaths their investigation was ongoing and that it was impossible to separate the caffeine consumed from energy drinks and the caffeine they consumed for other sources.

    Also I asked because there was energy drink with alcohol product a few years ago that a bunch of people died after drinking massive quantities.
  • #29
    @Yank I think you referring to a Jager-Bomb. It's Red Bull with a shot of Jagermesiter. I've done shots of Jagermeister and it gives you one hell of a nasty hangover!
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  • #48
    Where do you draw a line in the sand? When government wants to prohibit caffeine? When government bans soft drinks? When government bans happy meals? When government bans marijuana? When government bans cocaine? When government bans heroin? When government bans alcohol? Seems like virtually everyone has a line that they don't want to cross. On issues that involve freedom, I side with freedom. But don't make me responsible for your decision making as we are also a free do stupid things.
  • #26
    "Overdosing" on caffeine is unlikely, but it is proven to elevate blood pressure. Small amounts of caffeine can raise heart rates for hours and leave a person at risk of heart problems by engaging in any strenuous activity like exercise, dancing or sex.

    Caffeinated drinks are being used as mixer in bars (e.g. "energy drinks", colas). People with moderate to high blood pressure are unwittingly putting themselves at risk.

    A ban may not be necessary, but people definitely need to be educated about the risks. Caffeine can do as much heart damage in the short term as cigarettes can do after years of smoking or excess salt consumption over years.
  • #24
    We have a constitutional republic to protect the rights of the individual. The individual has the right to be wrong and to make bad decisions. If you want to live in a world in which you don't have those freedoms, China is to the east. People have been ingesting caffeine at least since the Mayans figured out how to make chocolate drinks and mankind has survived. The last time Americans decided they weren't going to put up with governmental bullshit was catalyzed over a caffeinated beverage, and all of a sudden the world had a truly free nation. It lasted roughly 100 years before the government decided it would "help" people. Now we've come full circle and the government is considering fucking with our caffeinated beverages yet again. May God have mercy on their souls.
  • #41
    @Thunderchicken Almost had me (The 'net is a wonderful teacher). LOL

    "The dihydrogen monoxide hoax involves calling water by an unfamiliar name, "dihydrogen monoxide", followed by a listing of real effects of this chemical, often presented as an argument that this substance should be regulated, labeled as hazardous, or banned. The hoax is intended to illustrate how the lack of scientific literacy and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears"
  • #15
    I think the government should have something better to do with their time.
    If I didn't have a mt dew & cigarette(yes! Caffeine & smoking) somebody would have to take my guns away!!!!
  • #14
    I don't think caffeine should be allowed. Just as I don't think cigarettes, alcohol or any other drug should be allowed. But the worst thing to do would be to put it in Gov't hands!
  • #25
    Exactly. The Mormans have managed to keep their people away from those things without telling other individuals what they can and can't do.
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