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  • #3
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    Well this is certainly more important than jobs, balancing the budget or closing the deficit not to mention rooting out corruption in govt. Why didn't I think of this? Probably why I'm not in Congress. I'm just not that good at shirking my job.
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    My thoughts exactly. As a 10 year USMC war vet....get your F'ing priorities straight elected leeches. And by priorities, I don't mean steroid use in Major League Baseball either. Good grief!
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    You have to give him credit for representing his constituents. When's the last time that you know of that anyone in Congress did that?
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    Exactly, GOP federal politicians are nothing but obstructionists, ambulance chasers and meaningless legislation. They are disgusting and deserve nothing for their role in our government. Horrible , it really is.
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    A salute is a sign of respect, an integral part of military customs & courtesies whether in or out of uniform. Just try and stop a veteran from saluting in civilian clothes and see what happens :)
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    Speaking as a vet since 1977 I have to confess I have never missed saluting, even for a nanosecond.
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    @DARSB there should be no law on this whatsoever in any fashion. not prohibiting it or not empowering it. A person should have the right to choose for themselves how and if they choose to pay respect to the flag. When you're in the military it's different. You sign away certain rights and it's understood. Outside that enviorment their should be no disscussion one way or another on this.
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    @DARSB That is why this would give you the option. Myself, I have been out of the military since 2008 and, after the amendment in 2009, salute the flag during all playings of the national anthem. Do you feel you should at least have the option?
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    @frigginhell I have to disagree with you on that. The salute is a sign of respect & carries tremendous meaning to many veterans. It deserves to be treated as such and should be earned, just like a rank or a title. Those people who have never served in the military should not have the option to salute. I would never call someone who hasn't gone through the proper schooling "Doctor". That same person, if they have never served in the military, should not use a salute. It works both ways.
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    Having solved all other national problems, achieved peace in the Middle East, and finally inventing a lite beer that doesn't resemble carbonated horse urine, Congress moves on to important stuff.
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    I can see it now. the department of Saluting will have to be created. While our southern border remains so porous that you could drive a cattle drive thru there undetected the salute police will be out checking people in civilian clothes for saluting without the proper credentials. Only in America.
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    @Jackie312gm Rep.Lee Ferry go get vented. You have too much free time on your hands. I like to play baseball with you so that i accidently bust you in the head with the baseball bat........ Go do the job you were elected to do....END OF F..KING STORY!!!!!
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    Terry is an all talk, no action (as in no military service) chickenhawk. He's trying to score political points for his career, not "protect freedom".
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    I'm a veteran. If I break the law and salute the flag while not in uniform, what're they gonna do, put me in jail?
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    Big Red One. I was OPCONed to a FA BN out of there while in Iraq. This is actually the second time I tried to post about it here. The first time was blocked. I guess the mods didn't like the acronym I used for Field Artillery Guys. But I kid. They were a great bunch of guys to work for. Way better than the MPs that replaced them.
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    @wild_turkey6 Where were you in Iraq and when? I was OIF 1.5 from Feb '04 to Feb '05 in Tallil AB down in Nasiriyah.
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    @MontanaJD I was in Kuwait during that time. We ran Camp Victory, Kuwait. You probably redeployed thru there. I was in Iraq in 09-10. We did PSD for the State Department and UN in the IZ. Currently, I am Kandahar. Of the three, I liked Iraq the best.
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    The place: A local veterans day parade.

    The Scene: a flatbed truck rolls by with 18 geezers all over 200 years old with their VFT hats on salute to the people.

    On the sidewalk and old guy maybe only 120 snaps to attention like it was yesterday and salutes them back.

    "excuse me sir. I'm salute police special agent Kenny Dipwad and this is my partner Linda Tripped. We're going to see you DD214 discharge papers for that salute.

    " My DD214? Are you people nuts? I haven't taken that out of whatever box it's in for the past 30 years. Do you want to go to my house and help me search?"

    "Sir please turn around and put your hands behind your back. You sir? Yes you, you right there with the pressure cookers. Move along. This is federal business and none of yours. Sir I'm not going to tell you again. Turn around and put your hands behind your back or I'm going to tase you.".
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    Politix, where the option for "What a ridiculous time-wasting piece of legislation this is!"

    Seriously, does it really matter to anyone how one salutes the flag or recites the pledge? Is this what these bozos in congress think is worthy of their time?

    Re-elect NO ONE in 2014.
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    @Denizen_Kate "Seriously, does it really matter to anyone how one salutes the flag or recites the pledge?" Um, to answer that, Yes. It damn sure matters to me. I am a 10 year veteran of the Army. I served in OIF. That being said, I obviously went through Basic Training and earned the title of soldier. Along with that, I EARNED the right to salute during the playing of the National Anthem. The salute is a sign of respect that should be earned. Do I agree with you there are more pressing issues the government could deal with? Yes. But don't just dismiss those of us who do care about something so "trivial" as a time honored military tradition.
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    This is something that matters to our men and women in the military and to those who have retired. This piece of legislation should take very little time. All soldiers, currant and former, should be allowed to salute. They did their time for our country, risked their lives. They should be able to salute if they so choose! I am from a family who all the male members have been in the military. My dad saluted anyway. He didn't care what a piece of paper said.
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    Can we get an option for why is congress even messing with this? Who gives a crap if people salute the flag, hold their hands over their hearts, just stand in silence, or even just sits in their seat? Being in uniform doesn't take away your first amendment right (and yes this does fall under first amendment in my opinion since how you treat the flag can make a statement) despite what the military and government beats into their soldiers heads.
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    I support what our Armed Services Code of Conduct states. Their rules, i defer to them. Other than that it's should be a non-issue to service members.
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    I've notice more and more lately that people just sit on their asses anymore. Yeah it pisses me the hell off. A friend was just recenlty wounded in Gahniland, lost a good friend of his as well. You bet your sweet ass that I think if a vet wants to salute the flag he or she has EARNED that right. Some of you, have not. Uncover your head and place your hand over your heart. Semper Fi!
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    I am a veteran and appreciate the opportunity to salute my flag. I respect my country and its flag, showing respect in this manner feels good and all should have the right to honor our flag and country.
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    As a USMC vet I have definite feelings about rendering honor to our flag. And, I have definite feelings about those who don't. Marines have a different set of rules about when you salute, even in uniform. If you are not wearing a cover you do not salute.
    But, I have a question about this proposed legislation....Why is it needed? There is a code covering this subject. When not in uniform, you place your hand over your heart. period. Nothing more is needed. This legislation is being offered to satisfy what is "wanted" but not "needed."
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    I agree completely. The military has it's own rules and regulations covering this. We have all been taught when and how to pay the proper respect. I do not see the need for politicians to “fix” something that has never been broken.
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    With the state of the current economy all the other fiscal cliffs immigration I am so glad the gop as normal is taking on the tough issues give me a break.
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    I see nothing wrong with the rules as they are. Personally, I get suspicious of anyone who thinks things like this are important. They seem far too concerned about what they can "look like". It's like the people who keep demanding public prayer rights. Be more concerned about how you act and what you do when the world isn't watching. And this Senator needs to concern himself with the real problems Americans are facing. Shaky economy, poverty, hunger, low wages... you know, the things he was put in office to work on.
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    Terry is another typical "all talk, no action" rightwingnut. He blathers about military service and soldier worship but was too gutless to sign up and serve. What does he know?
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    Ever since completing my 6 years in the USMC I have been saluting the flag. This is what us veterans do to honor our flag and our country. Since most politicians run and hide when there is a war to go to, they have trouble understanding this. Part "B" of this is "God Bless America!"
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