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    Our drug laws are insane, we have driving impaired laws, that is enough for anyone under the influence. We have trillions being sent untaxed to South America, Mexico, Peru, Columbia, more to Afghanistan for opiates and heroin, more to China, same thing. Countries that have the least drug laws, lightly enforced have the least crime, drug laws and high crime go hand in hand. That is the responsibility of our government, to reduce crime, not excerbate it, exaggerate it, encourage and support it behind it closed doors, and turn it into a culture of corruption for law enforcement.
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    @Hillofbeans
    We can thank Reagan for the vilification of drugs.

    His 80s', "don't do drugs" campaign REALLY worked well.(maybe TOO well perhaps)

    I was watching the black and white tv series, the untouchables not too long ago and wondered how much money was spent on enforcing the volkstead act.

    And subsequently, how much was saved by repealing it.

    But when they repealed the volkstead act, it gave rise to OTHER criminal activities. Extortion schemes, selling "protection" and the like.

    So then how much money was spent fighting this NEW wave of crime???

    Makes you wonder if we would have been better off just letting the bootleggers continue to make and sell beer, illegally.
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    @cnw95 Nancy and Reagan were both hypocrits. Nancy and her "Just say no" as she was abusing nerve pills to the point where she fell off a plane, and Reagan knew it as he was spouting about his war on people who do drugs. Do as I say not as I do, and I can but you can't.

    The prohibition of alcohol era was responsible for the downfall of ethical law enforcement unlike we had ever seen, and 1,000 times worse now than then.
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    @cnw95 "We can thank Reagan for the vilification of drugs". Reagan was one of many elected officials of both parties that have supported the failed war on drugs. In fact the term, "war on drugs" was first used by Richard Nixon.
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    There are things only a government should do, like wage wars or operate prisons. For profit penitentiaries undermine the integrity of the criminal justice system.
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    I agree with the penitentiary idea, but why do you believe only countries should wage wars? Religions wage wars, and peoples wage war against their own countries. Why should only countries be privy to waging wars?
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    @kirbstomp1 There are purposes to government, defense of its citizens being prime. The decision to expend the lives and treasure of a country in warfare is far too important and dire to be left to whim - although as our misadventure in Iraq demonstrates, government doesn't always get it right, either.
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    @DARSB - that's kind of my whole point, government doesn't get it right most of the time. So why do you put faith in them to take care of our citizens and soldiers? Look at what they did to over 50,000 of your brothers in Viet'Nam. I have no faith in our government.
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    @kirbstomp1 I disagree. I think part of the reason government failures are so glaringly obvious (and upsetting) is that it generally works pretty well. Water flows from the tap when I need it, the street in front of my house is nicely paved, we have a fine police force, I take safe and effective medications, and I can generally trust the food in my local market is not going to kill me.
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    The cost of incarceration is killing the ability to improve infrastructure. Unfortunately the prison lobby is powerful and considered a "growth industry" by too many legislators.
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    @ErnestPayne
    if they weren't locked up they'd be out killin'
    if it were up to me tens of thousands of em would hang
    the way it used to be
    is it a coincidence the rise in the criminals in jail has led to a steep decline in crime out of jail?
    we're locking the killers and criminals up
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    The number of non-criminals in prison is a disgrace, and mandatory minimum sentences is the primary cause. We should do our duty as citizens and sit on juries that decide these things, not let one-size-fits-all legislation do the dirty work.
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    @Ryuo This article states we have the highest percentage. That's a bit misleading. We not only have the highest percentage we have the highest amount period. We have more than Russia and China combined. Yes, those evil repressive freedom hating countries have less of their people in prison than we do.
    Don't expecti it to change. Keeping poor people in prison is big business. It's one more thing to tax you for and pay some shareholders.
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    @frigginhell China should win the contest if you count their work camps and slave labor, and they should get extra credit for the people that die in prison. I'm not sure how free Russia is these days, but considering that Siberia is/was a giant prison camp, they are probably still ahead of us in raw numbers, too. Still, third place is quite an achievement for a democracy, and we're gaining.
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    @frigginhell

    You really believe Russia and China are telling the truth when it comes to how many people they have in prison?
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    @Chavo Quite likely. They've never been ashamed of imprisoning people.

    What we need to change is our drug laws which are ruining far more lives than they save.
  • #124
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    @Zazziness decriminalize all drugs and create areas where the addicts can go use safely. It's only a problem when they interact with the general pop.
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    The problem is every little thing we don't like or that makes us on uncomfortable we have to have a law to make it illegal. I say if it hurts no one else it should not be illegal what ever it is.
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    @truthsayer There are so many laws now, that I could pick anyone out of a crowd and legitimately arrest them for doing something or having done something illegal.

    Congress needs to start repealing laws and cleaning up the books, instead of making more laws.
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    Too many laws and too many rules in this country. Our politicians should spend a lot more time repealing laws instead of constantly making new ones.
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    @TheJimmy repeal laws that try to make services into alienable rights, like same sex marriage and obamacare, and enforce laws that involve public safety with a heavy hand like sodomy and abortions.
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    Congress should spend a majority of their time reviewing, repealing, and revising existing legislature. Lord knows they can't fulfill their primary duty-passing a budget.
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    @Now_What decriminalize every law and see how long you last cup cake.

    Redistribution of wealth is communist talk...
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    @Sanctus Nope, no complete redistribution, but more tax dollars going towards education would go a long way. We also need to get guns cleaned up and add police force. These are things proven to lower crime, cupcake.
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    @Now_What oh come on tough guy...decriminalize every law on the books. Lets see you liberal blokes make a go at it.
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    another flaw of our flawless system. The prison industry is a multi billion dollar a year franchise. Even N. Korea doesn't acknowledge marijuana as a Narcotic, yet we incarcerate people by the tens of thousands, why? Because it's big business. Everyone from the firearms industry to the defense lawyers are making money hand over fist waging the idiot logic war on drugs. The problem is that half of the population being ignorant of drugs or drug use think it is a perfectly rational way of dealing with it.
  • #16
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    Time to clearthe prisons and jails of all those convicted onlly of drug use or possession. The best way to do this is by giving unconditional pardons. Some will need housing and training so they can be employable. There will be more than enough savings from emptying prisons to fund this. Finally our laws should change to make personal use and possession legal. RESTORE SANITY.
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    @fraps The saddest part is that is easy to say but harder to do. The laws need changed clearly. However, how many people are in for a drug charge because they made a plea deal from lesser charges? They went with the easy conviction and let a more serious crime slide by? That's the problem with drug laws from the bottom up. They've made a mess of things and a quick easy answer is usually never the right one.
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    @frigginhell drop the assault and weapons possession charges and plead guilty to the drug and trafficking charges? I'm betting there are thousands in prison right now from deals just like that. They should not be prosecuting on marijuana and they shouldn't be taking plea deals.
    I live in a town over ran by thieves who get out of jail just by snitching on the next dopehead who's dealing. It doesn't fix anything to let the guy who's breaking into houses and cars go just because he gave up a dealer. There is always another dealer and he'll just go back to stealing.
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    @frigginhell Yes, sir. I've said that same thing for years. They turn a thief loose for another drug case, insanity. The thief is the criminal, not the other way around. Drugs and loose cash are a motive for corruption, thus, corruption, thus thiefs are released.
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    @Hillofbeans Or even the federal prison system. In my opinion it amounts to a black hole, which makes a good place to funnel tax dollars into so they never see the light of day and can be funneled out to political recipients.
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    @Calfkiller The federal prison system is now also private, and they take illegals, which charges up to 300 bucks a day in some areas. It's all a big hoax on taxpayers.
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    @Hillofbeans Exactly! The marijuana laws, whether or not someone uses the stuff, are also a hoax. If pot were as hard to produce as big T&A (tobacco and alcohol) it would be legal and they would have to hire people to count all the tax dollars it would bring in. However I believe there is more money in fighting the perpetual war on drugs.
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    We're not in good company. Granted, China doesn't keep a lot of prisoners around. They're even more enthusiastic about executing people than Texas is. The countries where imprisonment and execution are excedingly rare have the highest standard of living along with the lowest crime rates. Again, the U.S. sliding into the third world.
  • #196
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    I find it ironic that non-violent drug users are being sent to prison while the US can't even keep drugs out of the prison system.
    That's like sentencing a fat person to do community service at a bakery.
  • #150
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    You can't compare this country to any other. I wonder how many are incarcerated in Arabia, or
    pick a country in the mid-east. Killing is condoned, it is praised. Raping and killing women is a
    common occurrence, and raping little girls is very common. They do no prison time, how is
    that a fair comparison?!
  • #68
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    There's big business in (semi-)private prisons. Lobbyist have been pushing for more and more regulations. In the end, every business needs more customers to lake a profit.
  • #62
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    We should never allow private prisons. As soon as people can start making money off of incarcerated people they will find a way to do so. You can see by the graph the increase in people being jailed after we started privatizing prisons.
  • #59
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    It's the stupid drug war and these new For-Profit prisons that are paying off judges to sentence more people to prison time. Non-violent crimes should require real public service such as cleaning up rivers, overpasses, highways, public parks.... Put them in a bright pink jump suit and make them clean up the countryside. I think a nice rainbow wig would be helpful too in making them wish they'd never did that thing they did.
  • #53
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    Hm...

    1. Carry out death row sentences.. 1 appeal. Dont sit on DR for 30-40 years and eventually just die of natural causes.

    2. Make prisons less "hotel" vacation like. Remove tvs, give them books, no exercise rooms, no internet, etc. JAIL IS JAIL. Not supposed to be relaxing or fun. Chain gangs, anyone? REAL MANUAL LABOR. Guaranteed once the jail "perks" disappear so will the repeat offenders. Hell I'd bring back public hangings if I had the privilege of doing so.

    3. Even though I dont agree with it, but it is what it is, remove the "jail" time for possession of self use marijuana. Allow people to grow their own.

    4. Revamp the entire criminal justice system. Its a freaking circus anymore.

    5. NO FREE MEDICAL/DRUG TREATMENT. How many people commit petty crimes JUST for it?
  • #49
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    But it is capitalism at work. Prison industry is big business. To make it work it takes legislators, law-enforcement, and most critical are the judges who hand out the sentences with as little harm as possible to the majority society. Disproportionate treatment at every step of route to prison for minorities is what pacifies the majority and causes them to put up with the out of control sentencing and imprisonment.
  • #97
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    @WMCOL It pacifies nobody. The majority of this country see this, drug laws, for what it is, lunacy. But, you have two candiates, both on the stump preaching, "I'll increase the war on people who do drugs." One of them wins, both should be disqualified for stupidity.
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    I think they should take every prisoner and make them do exactly what the did in the "dirty dozen"

    If you want out of the elements....here is a shovel.

    More walls, more bars and more guards!!!

    Can do the time, don't do the crime!!
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