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    "Should The Feds Regulate Gun Making?"
    The better question is "Should the feds be in the business to regulate any US citizen"?
    In order to have that smaller government, we, the people, need to have our government know it's real and only job. That job is to make/repair infrastructure, PROTECT and GUARD our borders (both north and south), regulate INTERNATIONAL trade, protect our country and collect taxes as allowed by our constitution. It is NOT here to regulate state commerce. States have their own laws to do that. And, it's definitely not here to "Regulate Gun Making?"
    Besides, has our government ever regulated ANYTHING successfully? Besides, taking our tax dollars and spending it on hookers and strippers?
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    @stepped_in_it House cleaning coast to coast. White Black Male Female Old Young. Don't care. Wish Filner was just the start.......
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    " Because locally-made guns could get out of the state" This is HILARIOUS!!! Let's not forget this is the same government responsible for over 15 MILLION illegals just walking right into our country. Government needs to focus on the purpose of government. We are citizens, not slaves.
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    Anyone with a half decent lathe and milling machine, well actually just a lathe and probably a drill press would be handy, can make a gun. You don't need high tech CNC equipment to do any of the work that is required. Having worked in the machine tool industry for many years, as a tool and die maker I can say I have manufactured, mmmm several guns, and they all worked just fine.
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    The very reason I think all the progressive liberal BS to highly regulate/ban guns are a crock of poo poo. You can NOT regulate/ban the idea + the ability to MAKE the damn things. That idea and ability has already escaped pandora's box and can't be brought back in......ever. <similar to the making of nuclear weapons, just need drive and ability + supplies = big boom>
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    @frigginhell
    Yep. Actually rather easy with a gold lathe and drill press.

    You do realize the Israelis made the Uzi during a gun ban period out of old washing machine parts right?

    Never underestimate the ingenuity of people when they want to create something. Look at the crock pot IEDs made by the terrorists in the Boston bombing. Look at the wood mines made by the Vietcong that weren't picked up by metal detectors on mine sweeps. Human beings being primates just like chimpanzees are skilled at the art of war and killing. We've been doing it ever since the first pre human figured out that a sharpened stick works better at killing than a rock or a wood club.
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    @frigginhell You need the right steel. Where I worked at we used a wide variety of oil, and air hardening tool steels like A-2, D-2, and all the carbon steel grades from 1015 up to 1080 which is fairly high carbon content. We also stocked tungsten, stellite , even titanium, stainless, and brass, and copper the brass was great for making cannons. In the shop I had access to 5 axis wire edm's, 3 of them. A Mitsubishi CNC 5 axis VMC, regular ram edm's, jig grinder's and borer's, and conventional mills and lathes. So it was a decent shop, we made dies for high speed presses like the Bruderer's, if you ever get a chance to see one run you should take it. Ours were 60 ton presses and they ran at 650 strokes per minute running multi station progressive dies and if you can imagine each stroke on some dies could make 2 parts so that's 1300 parts per minute. It's like a machine gun.......... Needless to say our operators could make a lot of bad parts in a hurry. LOL!
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    They can do both. Unrestricted, unregulated selling of firearms is a BAD idea. If for nothing more than the safety of the owners of the new weapons but more so for the public at large.
    This is not something that is hard to understand.
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    @frigginhell What?? I'm not following your logic. The safety of the public could best be served by properly policing criminals. You use a firearm in the commission of a crime, you're cooked.
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    @frigginhell I just suddenly realized why an entire generation walks around with their pants at half mast... it's so they can breath better.
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  • #38
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    The Feds will never let such things occur for a couple reasons:
    1. It would mean citizens have easier access to firearms which really scares many of the legislators because then people are harder to control because often you can't buy off someone with a gun who has Intent to use it

    2. This would really cut into those gun manufacturer profits and taxes that so many legislators benefit from in private but then demonize in public. If the anti gun governors really weren't a bunch a whiny hypocrites then no gun manufacturers would be present in the states of Illinois, Connecticut, New York, or California. Yet alas there are plenty of gun manufacturers in anti gun states and every time they threaten to pull up stakes and go elsewhere the governors do their best to keep them there. Hypocrites.
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    The Feds have way overstepped their authority in interstate commerce. They now regulate things that aren't interstate or even commerce. There was a case a while back where it was ruled that a farmer could not grow produce for his own use because that could affect interstate commerce.
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    Wheat, in specific, that he fed to his pigs to create a self supporting farm. That case has been used for the justification of regulation of everything and an over expansive reading of the phrase interstate commerce. Blame congress, they could pass a statute spelling out certian limitiations on the use (e.g. Production, growth or packaging of agricultural products that total under 100 lbs shall be exempt from regulation affecting interstate commerce).
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    The Feds already regulate gun making. They watch and keep records of every aspect of manufacturing firearms and components.
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    One reason not to do it is that they can't do it effectively. People can make decent firearms in their garages; in Pakistan, for example, there is a cottage industry making knockoff AK-47s. The BATF could grow as large as the IRS and they still could not stamp it out.
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    They have already proven themselves incompetent to handle their own congress. Why would anyone want them to enforce anything? They are a bunch of outdated old farts that should be home and taking care of their own business.
    We have enough laws that are unenforceable due to the sheer volume of law books so lets get them up into the 21st century before we add anything else. Congress would find a problem getting out of an open paper bag!
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    According to the us constitution, the feds only have the power to regulate interstate commerce. Not local commerce.
    If the guns are manufactured and sold only in a state, then no the feds have no business regulating it. If a later owner decides to sell across state lines (which im pretty sure is illegal unless it is through anffl holder anyway, but could be mistaken) then it becomes that individuals responsinility to comply with federal laws.
  • #73
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    Here we go again the U.S Government sticking there nose into something it's none of there business. if this Gary Marbut is going by the laws in place in manufacturing his own type of gun the 2nd amendment should give him that right period end of story. The government needs to stop making up new laws and using the high court to back them up. And sit down and read the Bill of Rights.
  • #67
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    No more government interference! The government can't even get a budget but wants to meddle in everything everyone does. The government is incompetent and incapable of doing anything but wast money and argue.
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    Of course not. Look at how they've lied, provided misinformation and manipulate the public now and constantly ever since at least the Vietnam War. They're just not responsible enough for such a task and should thus truly be left open to the public. Besides, how would we be able to defend against a corrupt government while that very corrupt government (if it is to be corrupt) regulates gun making and thus still regulates the guns?
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