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    Maybe we should ask the prison guards if "this is too much." People make such a small deal about things until it happens to them personally. I'd say charge them with the crime they are said to be committing. Otherwise, nothing will change..
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    I get the idea behind this, and im all for making life for prison guards easier, but a felony seems a little extreme. They wouldnt give you a felony for exposing yourself in public, just a very embarassing misdemeanor. Now throwing semen on someone is an assault in my mind. I feel like the system can be improved so that you can have a small private space or time to do that activity and minimize these encounters. Do that first and seperate the worst offenders then punish them, but not with more felonies, doesnt seem productive at all.
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    Some people's lives are cautionary tales. This is about cruel amusement and power. I agree with loss of privileges first then make an example for the others to think about.
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    Ya they should catch anouther case half the time they throw there semen at the females . When the C/O's write them a ticket half the time nothing happens cause the prison are so over populated there's no seg blocks to put them in. It's horrible what if it was your wife,mom, or daughter?
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    This problem could be resolved by enforcing same gender correctional officers. Unfortunately, politics has prevailed over common sense.

    Many of these inmates are in prison for the long haul. Adding on another offense to a lewd exhibitionist/masturbator will not deter the intent of these males for they have nothing to lose. Then there's the cost to the taxpayer for a longer sentence, with the taxpayer FOOTING THE BILL.

    Possibly these exhibionist/masturbators could be fitted with a tamper proof device to prevent their lewd behavior & still allow for urination? A month for a first time offender without access to his genitals for relief from sexual tension as punishment for lewd exhibitionism? Or solitary confinement for a period of time with no privileges? I am not really sure of just what to do in these cases, but I am for sure that this type of behavior needs to be corrected.

    Adding on a sex offender charge is NOT the way to go. Our American prison population is the largest per capita in the world... & WE, the taxpayers are paying for it!
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    Its more or less their bedroom.... Obviously they do it n front of the women for a reason, punish them in prison... Idk I wld have to think these woman shldnt expect any less from these inmates but then again i suppose i wld b offended as well but really i think its a matter of women in these positions should have tough enough skin to be able to even be a prison gaurd... The one female gaurd i know would prob laugh at them but everyone is different. I dont think they should have it added, just punishment or possibly an extended stay for bad behavior.
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    I think it's a little naive to think that this is a result of "lack of private space". I haven't spent time in these prisons, but I'm guessing that the complaint from the guards is that people are deliberately masturbating in view of guards. In which case it is aggression/intimidation of a sexual nature. Sounds like an offense to me.
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    an offense maybe.....but a FELONY? Come on, a years worth of jail for what amounts to an indecent exposure charge?? It is a prison...it isn't going to be rainbows and kittens in there.
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  • #15
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    NO! I can't believe this is actually in debate. Maybe if they don't want to see this type of behavior they SHOULD NOT work in a prison.
  • #12
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    Yes, sorry to say, but YES.
    if its against the law, its still against the law when you're a prisoner.
    Just because you are in jail doesn't mean you are exempt from obeying the law.
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    The inmates should be punished but you have to get them where it hurts. Put the inmates in isolation or take away there cigarette or tv miprivages. That will fix them slapping them with another charge just fuels the fire it won't do anything. Let the prison guard that was affended give their punishment.
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    Give them private space to do a natural thing in life and if they do it elsewhere punishment is okat
  • #9
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    This isn't about privacy its about power. True Dat hit the nail on the head. Many of the usual institutional remedies are nor available due to overcrowding and lack of resources. This is pure cruel amusement. I'm stuck and unhappy so I'll make your job hell too!
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    Honestly, this is partly a design problem, as to some extend prisons need to provide private space for such a natural act as masturbation to occur.

    Without such space, these guards have little room to complain and im just thinking if they don't like it- we'll that's clearly not the industry for you.

    But on the same coin, why are females working with male prisoners, I would expect that to be something that simply dosent happen much.

    If such space is provided, and prisioners do such acts in lewd and public ways in such a way to offend, well that's fine and im totally fine with the law in principal,

    Yet I question if it's the right direction, as how much does 5 more years cost the state?

    We just need to find away to design this to make this issue disavowed and the incentives for such behavior diminish without costing the state potentially millions of dollars more.

    I believe this represents one of the big problems with goverment, that the majority seems to always focus on simple solutions that at times make the overall situation worse.
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    You need to spend some time around prisoners.Read True Dat's remarks. While I agree with your economic concerns you have to research recidivism rates to begin to grasp what a poor job we do within the penal system. Personally I think prison should be a miserable place to be. Ax Sheriff Joe Araphpo? Makes a profit running his jail like, well, a jail. No cinemax, no weight rooms, tents in the summer and road work most of the year. His return rates are amazing compared to traditional prisons. Quit coddling criminals and make prison place you want to stay out of.
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    @iron wolfe,

    There is a fine line between prision being a place (you don't want to be) and it being mentally and physically stressing.

    This can even be measured via brain scans.

    The way we choose to impact others and how this ultimately impacts the mind and body is the only objective measure we have of morality we have at our disposal.

    I would even warn against the potential of making it so unpleasant an experience that the months and years of stress we impart to these individuals could very well raise the rate of re-imprisonment due to the way we choose to impact these people's brain.
  • #1
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    Seems to be there are institutional remedies for something like this but if the acts are about power then sure, charge them.
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