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    If it was such a winning issue for them, they would've had their way on it already. The fact that the lost on Capitol Hill, the fact that two state senators from CO (both liberal Dems) got the boot, and the fact that even with renewed talk after the Navy Yard shooting gun control is expected to go nowhere is only proof positive that gun control is not popular amongst the American People. I could go all day with this. The 2nd Amendment Endures.
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    The most interesting question is why the liberal elite keep attacking the 2nd Amendment even though they usually lose ground when they do. By now it should be obvious to everybody that their motive is not addressing crime or mental health problems, so what is it?

    Tyranny - weapons are the ultimate brake on the power of the State. Liberal politicians and media are thinking ahead to when they can throw out the Constitution completely and simply rule. One proof of this is the political positions of leaders of the Gun Control movement. Dianne Feinstein, for example, is on the extreme of supporting a stronger Federal government: the Patriot Act, nationalizing more wilderness, etc; whatever makes the State stronger, she's for it.
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    @Ryuo And that's why it's a losing issue for them. They are shooting at the wrong target. There is a real problem with crazy people getting their hands on guns. The solution is not to limit the non-crazy peoples' access to weapons.
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    @DerivePI Like her or hate her..........

    "Something seems to have gone horribly wrong right around 1970. What could it be? Was it the introduction of bell-bottoms?

    That date happens to correlate precisely with when the country began throwing the mentally ill out of institutions in 1969. Your memory of there not being as many mass murders a few decades ago is correct. Your memory of there not being as many homeless people a few decades ago is also correct. "

    E. Fuller Torrey's book, The Insanity Offense: How America's Failure to Treat the Seriously Mentally Ill Endangers Its Citizens. Torrey's book reads like a compendium of America's most heinous murders since the early '70s -- all of which could have been stopped with involuntary commitment laws, and none of which could have been stopped even with a complete gun ban.

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013-09-18....
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    DEMOCRATS CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES ON GUN CONTROL..........INDEED SO TRUE!!!

    They adore "People Control"
    They were all over the Navy Yard making lies up...However NO AR-15 was their ....They will now indeed lie lie lie Just for an agenda...Its shameful!!!
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    I take it you think your do nothing approach is supposed to satisfy people's desire to fix a societal problem. Other people care more than you to find solutions. You apparently don't give a shit.
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    @Russell797
    DC has the strongest "People Control" policy in our country. You apparently don't know that so you just continue to push your dis arm the country radical leftist agenda.
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    @Vance1 Vance, my friend, don't lump me in with others who you perceive a certain way. I don't seek a ban on guns, it's totally impractical and will not happen. I don't have an answer to the problem of gun violence in this country, but I do sympathize with those who seek solutions, because what is going on is not acceptable. Situations can be improved upon if we seek the answers, whether it be gun violence or healthcare coverage. Doing nothing is to accept things as they are.
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    They are not getting my gun, period!

    I have a right to defend myself by blowing the head off of anyone, any age, any gender, and any color that threatens my life or anothers life, or my property and I intend to do exactly that should the need arise.
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    That's what they don't understand. We are NOT giving our guns up. No matter what they try to do. It's a line in the sand issue with me.
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    @FordPrefect And that's also why everyone refuses to give them even an inch on the issue either. Even if there was a little bit of logic and some sort of new measure to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally deranged, we all know their true goal and that is to progressively go all the way. New York is a prime example of this. So, NO, we will never give you an inch so that you can then try to exploit a loophole or use it as some new precedent. This is one of the main reasons democrats need to be removed from power.
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    @Firestorm Give an inch and they will be searching your home. They got the Patriot Act for terrorism, now used by law enoforcement to circumvent probable cause on other domestic criminal matters that has nothing to with terrorism.
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    @Firestorm you are totally correct. They already tipped their hand. We know now there is no compromise possible with them
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    I don't think they get it. If you ban some guns it would just effect law abiding citizens. But the criminal, thugs, and mass murders. They don't follow the law. So what would be the point. You may not need an AR-15 but when the criminals also have them... it's nice to have one handy.
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    looks like they would realize murder is already illegal yet folks keep killing each other,weapon of choice does not make anyone less dead.
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    The bigger losing issue for the Dems is mental health, as all of the mass-shootings were connected to mental health problems and/or psychotropic drugs. They want to ignore the root cause and focus on the result, as though it was the cause
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    I'm with you on that. Let's not forget that mass killings can happen with other weapons too. 18 children were stabbed and killed in school rampages in China back in 2010. Do we have to ban "assault knives" too? Or should we do like you suggest and target the underlying issue that ties both knife killings and gun killings together?
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    @TheSaltMiner my guess is that if Democrats went after mental health, as the issues, most of them would be considered mentally unstable themselves.
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    @RedFloppyShoes lol, they prove themselves unstable quite often, voting ignorant? doing the same thing over expecting a different result?
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    Socialist mind sets have long known that the only way this ideology can become a way of life, is to first disarm those they wish to control. Democrats, unfortunately are becoming the feel good party of failure. The blue dog dems will in time jump ship for a more responsible way of life. We want our freedoms and we want responsible government and it seems we have been loosing ground in both arena for a long time.
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    No matter how hard they try to spin the argument a lot of Americans still see gun control as political oppression so to pursue it often leads to it's own natural consequences.
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    That is the hypocrisy of the gun grabbing left.
    Yes, indeed. The Syrians will be provided assault rifles, high capacity magazines WITHOUT BACKGROUND CHECKS !! Democrats and Republicans like John McCain approve this...This is our Government.
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    heck look right next door with f&f. obama was on tv more than a couple of times blaming our gun laws and shops for what his crew was doing,he stopped only after getting caught. for all we know he is still doing it.
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    Yep, they were collectively soiling themselves a few days ago over the 'trigger' word AR-15 in the hands of this screwball (most probably a democrat). But it was all hyper-venting and obfuscation from the leftest media and its surrogates. There was no AR-15 used by the killer, only a shot-gun and a 9MM was pistol used. The only AR-15 that was used, was by the police who dispatched the nut-job!
    Now you know why 77% of Americans don't trust the veracity of the liberal lame-stream media.(Gallup)

    Furthermore the Dems don't have traction as they once did on Gun Confiscation. Just recently, two democrats in the Colorado legislature were recalled and replaced by two Republicans over the issue of Gun Control.....Sayonara, boo-boo!
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    One thing I haven't heard mentioned in all of this is the background check that the shooter had to pass to get clearance to be a government contractor working on a military base. I would expect that to be more detailed than a simple criminal background check required to purchase a shotgun. Hmmm.
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    yeah the dim bulb we have as Secretary of Defense has ordered a "review" of the entire process... which in political speak means " we are actively and frantically looking for someone to blame this on"
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    Watch how many up for re-election in 2014 will not support gun control until afterwards.Watch those that do support it to be voted out .
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    @Starsplash lol sure they dont.The federal government can order any law enforcement in a time of emergency to take action.Get real
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    The reason its a losing issue. It doesn't work! I wish democrats would understand this. It's also a reason I fight them tooth and nail on every issue. If they would leave guns alone they might find it easier to get other things done
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    The modern day Progressives in both parties, but predominately are Democrats, are akin to the NAZI party in the 1930s. People control and world domination is their ultimate goal, and they are using every means to achieve it, from outright wars, to buying political power such as the U.N., to manipulating the stock markets and commodities.
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    They just can't help themselves, it's right up there with their adamant stance on abortion. Even though most people are against late term abortion, they stand by it and as Ms. Boxer said, an infants life begins when they leave the hospital. Same with guns, for some reason they are hard wired to want no guns in private hands, ever. Any time a shooting happens, rather than look at the past 5 or 6 or so of them and see that MENTAL HEALTH was the issue, they jump on guns. Perhaps we need to readdress the unreasonable rules for admitting and holding someone against their will when they are obviously having a serious, perhaps liable to hurt themselves or others, mental breakdown. Perhaps they need to address what many gun owners agree with, background checks that include mental health and the mandatory requirement that mental health workers at least report someone with an issue that could affect how they would act if they had a gun. Now, just to be clear, a mentally ill person who wants to harm someone due to "voices" or whatever, will find a way, if no gun is available, they will get a knife, a baseball bat, make a bomb, run their car into a crowded park and so on, but they would at least be denied a gun. What then, ban knives, baseball bats, driving a car?
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    Senator Feinstein can't help but lie each time she opens her mouth. This shooter didn't "obtain multiple weapons". He had a shotgun. With the shotgun he caused most of the carnage. He then took a pistol from a wounded security guard to cause more carnage. Politicians like her will always spout their lies because they have a hysterical fan base that thrives on lies and simplistic thinking. In other words, causes like gun control actually keep them in office. They just WON'T see that actual numbers of gun homicides are down; that countries that have absolutely no firearms in private hands have much greater gun homicide rates than the USA's (Cuba, North Korea & Venezuela) that in countries that have tough gun control have also greater gun homicide rates (South Africa) and there have been greater numbers of people killed in mass shootings than in the USA (Norway-77 teenagers killed 259 others wounded). They apparently also WON'T see that it's the inner-city jungles run by their fellow Democrats that are responsible for the greatest number of gun homicides in the USA (8,900 a year according to CDC&P). I say WON'T because they know about the figures, the research. They just refuse to face facts or try to educate their fan base on those facts. "There are none so blind as those who will not see".
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    It has to be. It is our Constitution and law of the land. If we take away the 2nd amendment, then we have the power to take away the 1st one as well.
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    Progressives and the Democrat party will always be against private gun ownership in any form. It's part of their DNA. . The Democrats and Progressives don't want laws to protect people from guns. But rather, the Democrats and Progressives want laws to protect themselves from people with guns. When you have a theory of government that's based on the collective and obedience as is with Progressivism, it is necessary to legally disarm people so that the legal use of force may be used against them.
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    Killers love a Gun Free Zone. Gun Free Zones makes them feel warm and fuzzy all over and safe. It makes me nervous to be in a Gun Free Zone, In a place where only the killers have a gun. Only the law abiding gun owner and CCW holder pay any attention to the law and leave their gun in the car. Just look at these shootings. Gun free zones. Now I see Starbucks is going gun free.
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    The answer to all the above questions is DEMOCRATS!
    At all times democrats believe that they know what is best for you and because of that, they have the right to make laws that tell you what you can or can't do.
    Thankfully in America there is a significant number of those on the right who often successfully thwart them. History has shown what happens when the left gains absolute power to decide what is or is not best for people (USSR).
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    I have to admit it was funny watching Dick Durbin with his puppy dog eyes standing in the well in the Senate. an empty room pleading his case to the camera above him... and repeatedly making an ass of himself rambling on about an AR 15.. proving once again that he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground
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    My fear is Obama will institute gun control thru execute orders. But since his decision making has been so bad, i.e. Syria, I doubt he has the intestinal fortitude to do it.
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    U.S. Senate candidate Obama also said on the questionnaire,“I would support banning the sale of ammunition for assault weapons and limiting the sale of ammunition for handguns.”

    Going after bullets is just a backdoor way to get those guns.
    "Barack Obama"
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    Only a fool would try to limit the sale of ammo. They cannot stop drugs from coming into the country. Ammo will come in the same way. And many gun owners already have stockpiled ammo. A black market in ammo will arise.
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    When they are all sitting at home on their collective asses maybe then they will understand why they got tossed. Messing with peoples right to firearms and their ability to protect themselves.
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    United Nations Disarmament Agenda 1961
    Democrat agenda, Democrat policy.

    United States arms control disarmament agency date 1961-” The United States calls on all states to make a continuous uninterrupted offense to achieve a total program for general and complete disarmament” As you see as far back as 1961 they had a program to disarm nations and people. The program had 3 stages. We are now in stage three. Now you know why they keep putting into congress all these bills to make you register your guns and take away certain firearms from you. They want to disarm the American people and they wont stop until they have every firearm in this country or until you say, enough no more, then they will send troops against you and the war will start.

    From the United States arms control and disarmament agency publication 4 series 3 released in 1962, is the outline of the disarmament of all nations of the world and, the combining of the military forces and one world military.
    State department document 7277 blue print for the peace race has three steps, we are at step three. Step three is preparing the disarmament of the American people. Which is happening today with the UN treaty and other laws congress is trying to slip past the American people.

    The agenda to disarm the American people is no secret they write out their plans in full view. The main stream news will not take the time to put together the writing and plans that the UN has. It;s as easy as filing a freedom of information act and just reading their websites. Why do you think the UN building has a pistol with it’s barrel twisted in front of it. The goal is for no people to have arms, and one world police force and military.
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