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    Here is a better idea, leave the 2nd amendment alone and find something else to try and take away from people and focus on, like liberal controlling authoritarin twisted thinking intrusive minds.
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    @willrogersusa I don't care who you are. You are wrong. I have training and experience of more than one fire fight. And the one fundamental rule is your weapon must be 1000% reliable. And adding some kind of added electronic gadget is a recipe for disaster. I am Not a quick draw side show shooter. I know my weapons and would NEVER put some fool thing like that on my weapon. Smh.
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    @willrogersusa You most definitly do not come off as a gun person, you come off as a hollywood type trying to sneak back door gun registration and control in. This would have no effect on crime, all it would do is interfere with peoples abilities, making guns more expensive etc. I can tell you this none of my guns will ever get this.
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    LMAO yes, I'd love to see him in his tapaderos and spurs try to lasso all the guns out of the hands of over 100 million people, and turn them into bionic firearms. LMAO

    This guy is totally screwy, and trying to hide behind his "I am one of you" lies. Then when he is made a fool by rational arguments against his silly ideas, he reverts to saying "well I am a comedian afterall."

    I wonder if Bloomberg paid him to do this?
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    Biometric technology is not there yet, but I think the article has a point - guns are not for beginners.

    If I were helping a novice friend use a gun for protection, I'd teach them 1) gun safety - don't shoot yourself much, and keep the things away from kids; and 2) elementary self-defense - keep your weapon hand away from the attacker, and get off the line of attack before shooting.
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    Someone asked me what I used:

    * I'm afraid of pistols, because I'd shoot my toes off one by one.
    * I don't like long knives, because I'd cut my finger off whenever I used one.
    * Percussion weapons are effective, but hard to conceal, and people look at you funny carrying a boulder.
    * That leaves short-bladed knives and improvised weapons. Ballpoint pens are my favorite, because you can write rude names on your assailant.

    I do have a gun preference that's perfect for my physical capability. Here I am during advanced combat training:

    http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6137/594606445...
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    Everyone is a beginner at some point, so all of us with experience should introduce people to firearms and take them under our wing for a while to teach them, excluding the person who wrote this article though, as he is obviously antigun, since they are the ones who promote idiotic ideas like biometric controlled guns. He also seems to know very little about handling firearms, or real ones at least. Hard to believe some people still practice twirling single actions. I though that died out years ago with the kids.
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    Don't "keep the things away from kids" - that's precisely how we got where we are now: generations afraid of inanimate objects.

    Guns are merely tools. You teach kids how to use other tools, you should teach them how to use firearms.
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    Yep, and this guy actually thinks people are stupid enough to believe he is a "gun guy"? LMAO I wonder if he will share his CAS# and handle with us so we can check him out, and ban him from any further CAS shooting events as well, IF he even participates.

    This is just another Hollywood influenced gun grabber who has watched Judge Dredd too many times and stuck in his "I wanna be a cowboy when I grow up" mentality.
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    @FordPrefect I highly doubt he did, all this would amount to his back door registration, making guns even more expensive and prevent people from being allowed to use a friends gun at a range etc. This would do nothing to adress crime, this would do nothing to stop mass killings. Give this technology to cops first, best Beta Test.
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    @Arumizy I got pissed in the first few minutes of his video. When he started talking about license I had enough. I think these " pro gun" anti gunners are much worse than the typical anti gun person. He should know better.
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    @FordPrefect
    We all have to keep in mind, In the world of liberal, it is ALWAYS someone elses fault. Liberal without personal responsibility will always be a violation of natures law.
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    "Owning a Gun Doesn't Mean You're Able to Defend Yourself." and yet many gun owners have done just that simply by showing their weapon.
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    @rickv2 yep sometimes that is all it takes to send a thug moving on to try his crime on another.
    when things like this happen most don't call and report it to the cops,it will cause a huge hassle. heck may even get fined here in ca for running of a thug.
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    Watch the video ... I am NOT liberal Watch the video .. I will say to you Sam... TRY not to shoot down solutions .. just make them better with your help.
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    @willrogersusa

    This is not a solution, just a completely idiotic and impractical idea. Propose a solution with some actual merit then maybe it won't get attacked.
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    @John_Matrix Not sure why you would insult me ??? Is your life really "your way or your an idiot?" Tell me john .. your background and then tell me a solution.. Please .. Will
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    @willrogersusa you claim to be " pro gun"? But are pushing an anti gun idea? I respect the flat put honest anti gun people more than a turncoat.
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    That is all it takes. This guy who wrote this article sounds like Feinstein's lackey, and obviously has no real life experience with firearms in real combat or training. Twirling cap pistols is not training, and makes me laugh. HAHA
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    Stupid article and stupid idea. Aside from technology like this likely to send the price of find skyrocketing so practical ownership wouldn't be possible I simply would not want to trust something like that. Start tacking on shit like this and it's simply one more step for something to go wrong when your life could and most likely will be on the line.
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    If the technology is as reliable as the gun would be otherwise, do it. And, the point about guys trying to fast draw out of a holster has no real-world relevancy. And, it in no way supports anything related to the use of biometrics.
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    Slow mo .. not quite true ... Fast draw still give (if only a little) a slight rush of what it MIGHT be like to have to pull a gun on someone. This part was only to give my thoughts on how people handle guns and how (emotional ) training might be a good thing to add to buying a gun. Again you can take a written test BUT .. seeing if you can apply the knowledge under stress is different ... as you local police or person (PTSD)... my only point.
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    @willrogersusa oh I fully agree that people need to train and regularly. And I don't mean just the basic handlers courses. Training where stress is introduced is where the real skills are developed. I'm just saying, the way you present the scenario where the guy shoots himself in the leg makes it sound like you're trying to use it to substantiate your proposal for using biometric technology which, wouldn't keep the owner from shooting himself. Only proper training and regular practice will reduce the odds for doing that. It's a matter of developing muscle memory that properly places your trigger finger outside of guard when you grab the weapon. It has to be a habit because, under stress, your brain falls back more on training than deliberate, step-by-step decisions. And repetition is the only way to program the proper movements.
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    @Slowmo A1 answer brother ... I think we are saying the same thing... But please look at the fact as well that I am a political and social humorist .. and take all the parts that seem absurd and chalk them off to a humor attempt. YOU ARE right and you are saying what I beleive in.. Take a movie theater:" man comes in (cause you never hear woman doing this, their too busy trying to date these nuts) and the shooter is down by the screen, shoots up in the theater and someone on the top says " I have a gun, maybe I should do something?!" 1. crossfire with 200 people in the middle 2. can I do this... I have never done much more that look at the gun ... 3. and on and on ... TRAINING is the key. I AGREE
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    @willrogersusa O.k. can I jump into the spin and humor arena? But then again, with all of the anti gun people out there unless he pointed his gun at me I probably wouldn't do anything. Let the people who hate guns call the cops and see how that works out for them.
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    @willrogersusa "crossfire with 200 people" isn't much worse than an uncontested, mass shooter shooting at everyone who moves. If the mass shooter is having to shoot at the good guy with the gun, then he's NOT shooting at everyone else. Also, look at the Aurora shooting..everyone jumped face down on the floor; they weren't up running around like a stampeding bunch of chickens with their heads cut off. If its me in that theater and I'm carrying, my training tells me that he doesn't know I have a weapon and to lay down too and only act if I'm likely to win. ie..if he's close enough to hit and when the opportunity to win presents itself. Or unless he's about to shoot me in the face, of course. Any other act puts lives (including mine) in more danger.
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    Will, have you been in combat or involved in real shoot or no shoot scenarios? teaching gun spinning has very little context for self defense training and i've seen enough hollywood gun handling to make make alternately chuckle or sick to my stomach.

    So here's my point you sound familiar with gun handling- why in the world would suggest that a piece of equipment or technology would make gunowners safer shooters? ever see someone with sweaty hands try to get thumbprint reader to work under stress? how about the effects of dirt, debris, or simply a low battery not to mention the occasional electronic glitch? oh and as for fingerprints, CSI bears little to no relationship with reality. It's very easy to not get a proper print on any touched surface that can be read effectively. Seems like this idea of using technology to replace competency training has been around forever and always with the same results- failure. The bottom line is that gun ownership requires training and practice for competency. Always been that way. Far too many people are willing to spend $100s or $1000s on a custom weapon when they( and everyone else ) would have been buy a stock entry level gun and spending the rest of that money on training and ammunition. Our society has changed from a largely agrarian/frontier base where weapons handling / competency was a requirement of life for the overwhelming majority of folks to a ?civilized modern urban society where such skills are no longer a life necessity. As such these skills now need to actively sought out as opposed to being handed down within families. Sure there are lots of families with hunting traditions and combat experienced veterans who teach their children gun safety and respect. There are also tons of gun owners whose only training and experience was watching Die Hard one too many times.

    So in brief i dont believe biometric technology is anywhere near reliable enough to count on in a stress shooting situation. Secondly i will never convinced that any piece of gear will replace personal responsibility. Everyone may have the RIGHT to own a gun under the Constitution until they have proven themselves unfit but that doesnt mean owning a gun is the right choice for everyone.

    Wyatt Earp allegedly stated you dont get good with a gun by carrying it around, you get good with a gun by shooting it. Sadly that wisdom fails to reach far too many wannabe action heroes and Saturday matinee gun toters...
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    But, but, they'll give them back won't they? Or maybe you'll get IOU's or food stamps in return. LMAO This guy is a complete moron, and already exposed his lack of knowledge on the subject in his first few posts.
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    @Concerned_Cit - Why are you calling me names ... If we were having this conversation in person ... would this be they way you would talk too me? Tell me why you are so confident in your name calling ... if you wife or kids say something you dont like do you lash out and call them Morons? I dont know you ... why are you calling me names.... answer that. If you want to pose to me something you disagree with then we can debate .. otherwise .. maybe that is our WMD of our time LACK OF TALKING IT OUT. so, WHAT is it you dont agree on .. Point by point
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    That would be great in a time of war or a revolution, now wouldn't it? Brother dies beside you and you can't pick up a loaded weapon and use it. Smh. NEXT SUBJECT
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    Ok, Got it ... I did not say that it was THE answer .. but I am looking around and I dont see your suggestions anywhere. Do you have one to contribute?
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    @willrogersusa the only people being hurt by all the ones trying to take guns away are the ones who have every right to own them. Tell me how you hurt the criminals in all this?
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    Address this AMSCountryboy: I agree that we should have our guns and nobody has the right to take them ... wanabe cowboy - outright fool WHY do you keep calling me names? what is it that I am saying that is making you do this?

    Give me the reason. and adding more name calling does not answer the question. So TRY to answer the question.

    Will
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    It's another part to malfunction and leave you with a non working gun. This is an idea taken from a movie. I forgot the title..maybe someone else remembers? What a silly idea that every gun manufacturer would recall ALL their guns and retrofit them with biometrics.
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    Judge Dredd. The gun grabbers get their information on guns from Hollywood, so no wonder they look completely silly when trying to discuss the subject.
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    Perhaps this is a chance to prove Will's point. Let's get every police force, including the feds, to lead by example. Show me how well it works.
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    I knew would say that .. Someone on facebook said the same thing. You and your partner are in a gun fight and he gets shot .. you go for his gun BUT its not going to work!... Ok, here is what I said to him ... MODERN technology should at some point allow BOTH the beat cops to have their guns registered and work for each other. I KNOW this is a bit far fetched .. BUT build on it .. don't just destroy it if you mind can't grasp OR WONT grasp it. Plus we are NOT trying to keep the guys from cops... so, go from there.
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    @Medicinebow - Again Mr. Bow ... I don't know .. but you could chime in and give a suggestion .. Lets call this here a brainstorming session ... I say something productive and then you ... Thats all I am saying

    Will
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    I think you should stick to gun spinning and Hollywood movie coaching Will.
    Neither make you an authority on the subject. You're basically advocating an electronic safety device, more parts in a gun to fail. I do some gunsmithing and what you're proposing isn't backed with sound technology, if it were the gun industry would be selling it today.
    Who's payroll are you on or hoping to be on ?
    How did your piece even find this forum ?
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    no it should not be done, is this guy watching "Judge Dred" reruns? so you can never transfer a gun to family or pass it down? you can't teach your children how to shoot because the guns are bio linked? stupid discussion.
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