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  • #27
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    A very high majority of these liberal socialistic partisans who push these green policys, have no idea how to make power with solar panels or wind turbines or wood gas. They talk the talk however they would be absolutely helpless if we took an emp strike and the national grid went down.
    They know nothing of batteries or charge controllers. or power inverters, or grid tie inverters, They see the panel and have no idea how to covert that into household usable power.
    They have no idea how to drill a water well, or purify water. Hell they cant even change the oil in their Kia's.
    One emp and they grid goes down they will all be crying and weeping begging the government to do something, Its what they do.
    One event will turn them into a pile of whinning weeping crap.
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    Inverter technology works great!
    I hardly used the generator after the last three hurricanes. My neighbors see I have lights and come running over to see if the power is back on because they don't hear my generator running.
    They are amazed that I have AC power from batteries! Lol.

    You can purchase a 750watt inverter from wallyworld for about $65. They work great. I have a 450watt at the camp and run all the lights, electronics and tv with no noise and conserve whenever I can.
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    @HawkTheSlayer

    absoulutely, I use a 3500 watt grid tie at my house and have lowered my power bill by $80.00 a month.
    Up north at my cabin I use a 4500 watt invertor and have all the comfort there.
    Good job man keep it up.
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    It's his patriotic duty to live without the government's help. I'm so glad he feels this way. I hope he's not making use of his lifelong health insurance subsidies he's receiving and told them to keep the check, he no longer works there, he's fine on his own thank you.
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    For real, being 87 and living in the wilderness without any firearms is just crazy. It could be a major tool for food just for starters.
    I'm guessing there are no bears or wild bores in those woods.
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    @songbird and mountain lions and coyotes and probably wolves. If they haven't eaten him yet he's learned to get along with them all.

    As for the gun question, West Virginians are not always forthcoming about their guns and whiskey, as the ATF is a traditional enemy.
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    If everyone could, if it came down to it, live without government aid, there's be a lot less "demand" for their "product".#checksand balances
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    Anyone who wants to be green and reduce their global footprint, lives as much off the grid as possible. No cable TV, make your own electricity, filter your own water, raise your own food, drive as little as possible, and in general be self sufficient.
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    Good for him, and wouldn't it be nice if some of his former colleagues joined him "off the grid" instead of "in the Beltway".
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    Yep...Been doing it for yrs already.
    I have wind turbine, solar panels, water storage and 40 acres in Northern AZ
    Bring it on!!!
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    Anyone that believes and least of all that the government can and will get you thru anything are dreamin or nuts.Why do you think the government is watching all that you do?Simple because we have not been watching all that they do.Why do people buy life insurance,health insurance,or even car insurance but to protect themselves from the unforeseeable.One would be wise if not yet but very very soon should be prepared for the unthinkable.
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    I find it humorous that he does have an electric generator, living off the grid to me would be without electricity or bottled water.
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    Survive without government? I'd say quite a few people do that, as that is not hard at all. But that is not what is really meant when someone speaks of living off the grid.
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    I would add to the nutrients in the soil as my body decomposed! Me survive off the grid? For as long as I had food I brought with me and water. Then I quickly become history.
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    People think they could live completely off of the grid. That doesn't mean just electricity, it's water, sewer, all food and no communication. I have solar panels, but they do not entirely provide our electricity. I do not have a septic tank or a well. It would have to be a very deep well to provide water needed. My fireplace burns on liquid ethanol not wood. I have a generator, but that requires gas. I don't know that we could put enough solar panels and have you ever heard how loud an electricity producing windmill is? I would need a much larger garden, but with a well and a septic system, there would not be enough room for a garden large enough. I would have to build on a wood burning fireplace. We would definitely have to hunt. We do own the guns, but would eventually need more ammo. Our family's home used to be way out in the country with plenty of room for everything necessary. Including cattle. But the upkeep of the home and land was about $20,000 a month. The taxes were exhorbant! My mother made the decision to sell. We have hundreds of acres of farm land that we lease out. We could use some of that land to live that way. We would have to start from scratch. The old home land had a lake that my father had stocked with fish. It was under fished, so would provide a lot of food. It also had a large amount of turkeys, too many and many deer. The farm land doesn't have a lake. But we would have to start before anything happened. Building, solar panels, windmill, actually digging a lake and stocking it. Putting in a septic system and digging a very deep well.
    Stocking up on ammo that's hard to get right now. The taxes would eat us alive on all of that! The government wants us to be dependent. Taxes alone would stop us from being able to do all of that! Government stops it. We're just prepared for short to medium term natural catastrophes. That ex-congressman needs to get guns and ammo because if things happen he thinks might, he will have to defend himself, family and property from people who weren't prepared and he would eventually have to hunt.
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    Something I noticed lacking in this article. How many people are being supported by this off the grid lifestyle? They only mention him, and he's 87. For all intensive purposes, it's easy for a single person to do so. There's nobody complaining about anything, you control everything, you only need enough food and heat for yourself. I have no love affair with modern technology or media, no tv, no ipods, no xboxes, no psps. My only indulgence is internet, which I admittedly do not need. I do have a cellphone because I don't have a landline and have no plans on getting one anytime soon. When I do I'll get a tv too, but that's just not going to happen.

    I grow a lot of my own food and put it up myself by canning and dehydrating, everything from typicals - green beans, tomatoes, corn, carrots, cabbage, beets - to soups and baked beans. There are plenty of apples, pears, and various berries to pick and save for a rainy day. People ask me why I don't have cows for beef and dairy. Firstly I don't eat beef plus I'm lactose intolerant! Secondly, having a vegetable based diet is way easier on the pocketbook. I can cram LOTS of food into smaller spaces with intensive planting, don't have to pay vet bills, dish out enormous amounts feed, and can save the seeds for free for next years' crops. The only animals I have are rabbits and their job is to fertilize the gardens. I learned to make poison ivy salve from the wild jewelweed because I always seem to get a rash. I knit, crochet, and can sew clothing from a pattern and alter already made shirts and pants. I already have a rain water collection system that has kept my gardens in aces through several droughts. I know some mechanics, some plumbing, some electrical and construction skills. There is a power inverter and old parlor stove in my garage for emergency electricity and wood heat (I have thick forest on my property so there's plenty of fuel to be had) both for comfort and cooking. And I DO have a shotgun, rifle and bow. I'm not totally insane.

    Could I do it? I'm pretty sure I could. Could the Johnsons down the street do it, having to explain to Little Susie and Little Bobby why they can't ride their power wheels in circles for hours, but instead have to get that river water hot enough over the fire so they can wash their clothes? What about Mr. Johnson's need for Bud Light? What about Mrs. Johnson's need for prozac and cigarettes?

    I can see it and it's not going to be pretty..........
  • #51
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    Love that post!
    Got it covered on the end, too!
    Been making wine in primary fermenters and carboys for years. If I can't get sugar , I'll use honey( ran 100 hives at one time).
    I'm familiar with various mash makings and some forms of distillation. Lol!
    Who needs Bud Light?!

    Reminds me of the old Police song " I'll be wrapped around your finger".
    Being well educated is a must but being well rounded is essential to survival.
    ...
    I have only come here
    Seeking knowledge
    Things they would not teach me
    Off in college
    ....
  • #53
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    @HawkTheSlayer My dad is the wine maker. His arbors are loaded this season and I'm jealous! The grapes I planted are establishing so I'm on my way. I've been studying up on bee keeping too. Next year brings a small expansion with chickens and hives. Debating trying moonshine too, but I generally just make ginger beer. Very refreshing on a hot day!
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    Well, I know a lot of the native plants and what to use them for. I can cut fire wood with an ax. I know how to raise a garden and can. I can cook over an open fire. I've got a treadle sewing machine and can sew and crochet. And I have plucked and cleaned chickens before. I'm not adverse to grinding up red worms to add to flour for extra protein. I've been cat holin' since I was a kid. (using the woods as an outhouse.) And I can always scrounge for corn cobs to hang and dry. (toilet paper) The only thing I would miss would be (air conditioning) lol
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