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  • #115
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    "The fact is that around 30 million Americans have been deprived of health care strictly for socioeconomic reasons or other discriminatory factors."

    Of course this is a crock, When you were 19-20 yrs old were you thinking of buying health insurance? of course not. The only thing this puff piece is missing is some lube.

    And of course the rating of our healthcare system in the world was debunked ages ago- because we calculate different than other countries regarding infant mortality etc.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...

    But keep believing the Obamabots..........please lol
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  • #69
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    The federal gubment forcing you to buy something you don't want or need is an act of aggression. Majority of Americans didn't want it then, and don't want it now! It had a brilliant birth in the House, where Pelosi, that glittering jewel of colossal ignorance proclaimed "We won't know what's in it, until we pass it." Only in Amerika, filled with duplicates of the original idiot!

    Senator Baucus (D), one of the authors of "ACA", recently said: "Its a Train Wreck waiting to happen." Obviously, he knows something you don't! Obama has illegally made 19 exceptions to the requirements for all to participate, such as the Congress and their staff, just to name one group. If its so damned good, why are they (and others) getting exempted, hmmm?

    This administration and their policies are as crooked as a dog's hind leg! My low-information seeing eyed dog, Rush Limp-paw can see through this like a pane of glass..

    http://patriotupdate.com/2012/07/13-ways-obam...
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    @harold_lloyd

    Beckers Hospital Review 6-12-13

    Report: 36% of Physicians Plan to Leave Medicine Within 10 Years

    "Not wanting to practice in an era of healthcare reform — 58 percent cited this as one of the reasons."

    Health Reform and the Decline of Physician Private Practice

    A White Paper Examining the Effects of The Patient Protection and
    Affordable Care Act On Physician Practices in the United States
    Includes results of Physicians and Health Reform, a survey of 100,000 physicians

    VII. Health Reform and the Physician Workforce: Supply, Demand and Access
    Page 74

    The Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) forecasts that in
    15 years the United States will face a deficit of up to 159,300 physicians, over one-third of them in primary care.

    The AAMC projects that universal access would increase the physician shortage by an additional 31,000 doctors.

    The American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) projects a shortage of 149,000 physicians by 2020, and the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) projects a shortage of 65,560 primary
    care physicians by the same year.

    Twenty-four states and 21 medical societies have projected physician
    shortages.

    http://www.physiciansfoundation.org/uploads/d...
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  • #6
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    What about those of who believe Obamacare is a good thing for those who fall through the cracks of healthcare in America. Don't you think THEY deserve some loyalty?
  • #79
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    @PayThatCEO you know what would REALLY help keep people from falling through the cracks?? Money. Jobs. Education. You can't pay your bills with you Obamacare card. But you can pay your health insurance and everything else with money. And, when the working/middle class have money, they spend it which creates job growth, economical growth. And growth spurns more growth. Instead of implementing a program that makes people more dependent, why not implement a program that helps people be independent?? People who have jobs and make money don't slip through the cracks.
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    @harold_lloyd then the most logical solution is to help their parents. Instead of putting forth all this effort to bandaid one issue, why not work on providing a real solution to the issue of poverty (because that's what a lack of health insurance is..a poverty issue) and help parents increase their earning potential. Oh, that's right..because that solution would mean independence FROM the government. We can't have that!
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  • #7
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    negatively. that is how the healthcare industry will be affected by this disastrous law that the majority of the American people do not want ....never did want.
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    but you have to remember, obamma is the smartest man alive and he knows what is right for us even if we don't see it that way now, eventually we will. LOL. it reminds me of a parent/child relationship where the parent always says "im doing this because i love you and you'll thank me later".
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    @dontmatter well the differences in that scenario the parents really do love their children ...Obama hates the United States.
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  • #15
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    The idiots on the right were against Social Security, against women voting, against civil rights and against medicare. Conservatives have a long history of being wrong on social advancement. They were wrong on all of the things I listed and they'll be wrong on Obamacare.
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    It is easy to control the minds of a people. All one has to do is change history by lying about the past. This is exactly what has happened with the legacy of former Democratic U.S. Senator Al Gore, Sr. of Tennessee - the father of our current vice president - and his mythical "support" of civil rights.

    In a recent speech to the NAACP, Vice President Gore said his father lost his Senate seat because he supported civil rights legislation. Fellow black Americans, let me set history straight. Al Gore, Sr., together with the rest of the Democrats, voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    Congressional Quarterly reported that, in the House of Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act as opposed to 80% of Republicans (138 for, 38 against). In the Senate, 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted for the Act while 82% of Republicans did (27 for, 6 against). All Democrats voted against the Act.
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    @tpl I don't see unions lining up encouraging congress to push the country into recession in order to defund Obamacare, only conservatives.
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    @PNWest The economy would have to improve a LOT for us to be IN a recession. We're in a depression. I wouldn't be surprised to see unions vote GOP.
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  • #13
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    I do not have time to fully respond to all the mistaken parts presented in the story now but will post more later. There are very few going without essential healthcare services today. Emergency rooms must treat all comers, BY LAW.
  • #29
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    Using an ER for primary care is possibly the least efficient and most dangerous thing an uninsured person can do.
  • #60
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    @DARSB true - but done every day by a large portion of the welfare state - now you will be supporting them in their quest to buy mandated insurance.
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    @vws "done every day by a large portion of the welfare state"

    Well, that's a nebulous claim. I don't suppose you can supply any evidence?
  • #109
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    @DARSB Only personal experience. Ended up in an emergency room 4 times. The wait was hours. Many people there for colds, etc. Triage would have helped, but, I think the only triage used was simplistic where virtually every one ended at the same level. The only exception was in CT. I sliced a good chunk of my hand trying to learn to cook. Then I got taken care of immediately. Otherwise, wait, wait, wait. Some complaints were of the nature 'my baby has a fever', etc.
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  • #26
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    It will insure, at significant cost savings, millions of Americans. This will allow those Americans to live healthier lives. It will save lots of money with those Americans not going to the emergency room for non-emergent, non-urgent treatment. Since the system relies on private insurance companies it will strengthen corporate America putting money into the economic cycle. It's a Win-Win for the people and the economy.
  • #168
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    I will agree in part in that CEOs of health insurance companies are grinning like Cheshire Cats. They will have a captive market when it goes into effect.

    You will have to show, however, how it will save costs.
  • #170
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    Currently the only way for a person not covered with insurance to receive covered services is an emergency room. The services here are generally billed in the thousands of dollars for simple services. With insurance the covered individual can go to a personal physician or urgent care center saving significant costs.
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    But we'll have to wait and see, won't we.

    I doubt that it could be as bad as some hope, but I'm pretty sure it will need some tweaking.

    Thar will be good news for the teabaggers, who will make every hiccup into a constitutional crisis.

    The rest of us will just get some basic healthcare at a decent price.
  • #51
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    They want it both ways, Just look at that pathetic Paul Ryan Budget, which relies on Obamacare's $716 billion in cuts to Medicare........but ryan and says its a $1.2 trillion tax increase.
  • #71
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    @FFS-

    When you get that far from reality, you have to twist your logic in some pretty odd ways.

    What I don't get is why so many people are taken in by it.
  • #35
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    The Affordable Care Act is NOT socialized medicine. The insurance will be covered by private insurance companies. Those companies will determine the coverage of individual policies and the premium cost. That is not socialism, that is capitalism.
  • #40
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    @dddavis

    Call it what you choose! what it actually is, Is One step closer to Socialized medicine.
    If you are un willing to admit that, Then you are part of the problem instead of being part of the solution.
  • #54
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    Most of the people against it already are on socialized medicine. Old people , the disabled and the lazy. Why are you against working people having healthcare not tied to what their employer can afford to pay? That is what socialized medicine is.
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    Fragmented sentence.... If medicare and medicaid are not socialized medicine then maybe I do need educated. I support a single payer , that is what I voted for in 2008. What I got was crap.
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  • #11
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    With Obama at the helm our country is already unstable, domestic and foreign. Remember folks, this is the same guy who wrote two ludicrous articles pushing for a war in Syria. Nuff said.

    Fact: for those who are already forced into this plate of crap, premiums have gone up, not down, and costs to our labor force are already uncountable
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    " premiums have gone up"

    Better tell the people whose premiums are going down.

    And how to explain higher premiums when the ACA isn't even in force yet.
  • #58
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    U.S. Health Care System = Third-World Country. The slide into third world status began when the government began interfering in the healthcare business. Get the government out of healthcare!
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