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  • #4
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    I'm still waiting on a real shutdown, then everyone would realize how they don't need 90% of the government that exists. Trim the fat. There is a skinny government trying to get out of that blob. Send in Richard Simmons. :-D
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    @drpeeper why house of turds so afraid of a majority vote.
    Funny how The"cavers come from states that are donor states with fed tax dollars supporting the tea soaked red states. note all the Def Dept pork the freshman TeaPubs fed their states...
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    You are so correct, we could well to rid ourselves of these blood suckers who have been draining America for years by being on the payroll, together with the lobbyists, and the Federal Reserve which is not Federal and has no reserve, but is owned by the International Banks.

    We need an exterminator to clean out the halls of Government.
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    @mountain-folk your state gets about 1.70!back from Feds than you pay in...your in a bloodsucking state.
    Prediction Grand Bargain. Federal health plan same choices as senators, rep, and fed employees receive replaces Obamacare, Single payer efficient plan functioning in all states now. at least the chef eats where he cooks
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    ACA looks like it is starting to suck. High premiums, high deductibles, high co-pay and according to the CBO only about 7 million will sign up at the exchanges leaving nearly 30 million still uninsured.
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    "leaving nearly 30 million still uninsured."
    Sounds like the ACA has created a new BIG tax..........
    I'd bet most of those 30 million are working poor who receive a nice tax refund due to child tax credit and low income credit leaving them ripe for ACA tax penalties. They will really be pissed when they discover that they can't afford the $200-400 a month for a poor insurance plan (yes folks, that is a lot of money to the working poor) and then face a tax penalty for not having enough money for health insurance.
    I can see revolt in the air..........
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    7 million trying to sign up in 2 days with the networks not working? Amazing! At that rate, the 30 million you mention will be insured in approx 4.5 days ! Already yet, 7000 have signed up in Calf. 6000 in Colorado.
    Low premiums, insurance even with pre-existing conditions, more coverage, lower cost for meds ....Wow!
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    @stepped_in_it They'll need to get a part time job to pay for their own insurance. So what's the problem ? They've been subsided by real tax payers till now.
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    @Medicinebow - When it gets to the point that both parties are willing to hold the common person hostage, then it's time to start over by cleaning house.

    The House and Senate should NOT be getting paid just like the rest of the low level workers (most of them are wealthy anyway).

    Nothing will be done until the wealthy and gov contractors start getting squeezed, THAT's when things will get fixed. They don't give the slightest diddly-squat about YOU.
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    No keep it going, so as to expose the Imperial Obama for what he is, in my humble opinion, a Marxist Muslim sleeper who hates America and wants to destroy what we have built by turning us into a Communist Muslim Night Mare.

    Again I repeat, look what Obama did to the WW2 vets by saying they would be arrested if they visited their own memorial.
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    And since we're throwing words around, why don't you explain to me what Marxism, Communism, Muslim etc mean if you feel so strongly abt it. I bet you can't w/o referring to wikipedia.
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    @O_S_Thomas

    Obama Nods to Putin
    By Eileen F. Toplansky


    The pundits have expressed shock, dismay, disgust, and embarrassment concerning Obama's apparent hapless handling of the Syrian situation.  There appears to be widespread astonishment that an American president would permit a Russian ex-KGB leader to take charge of the volatile situation in the Middle East. George Will has stated that "[r]egarding institutional derangements,[Obama] is the infection against which he pretends to be an immunization."  Charles Krauthammer maintains that "President Barack Obama's Tuesday night Syria address was 'one of the most odd presidential speeches ever delivered.'"
    In fact, conventional wisdom seems to be stipulating that Obama is "in way over his head," has no sensible foreign policy, and is unaware of how he is diminishing the credibility of the United States.
    But let's consider some facts about Obama and his communist leanings, which have been well-documented.  In The Communist by Paul Kengor, one learns of the tremendous influence Frank Marshall Davis had on Obama.  Davis was a "pro-Soviet, pro-Red China communist.  Davis opposed U.S. attempts to slow Stalin and Mao and he favored Red Army takeovers of Central and Eastern Europe."  Obama was quite susceptible to Davis's worldview; this has been repeatedly demonstrated by his disdain for capitalism, his ideas on redistribution, and his outright contempt for American values.
    Davis, who was considered a security threat, mentored Obama, and "that's quite unprecedented for a presidential mentor. With a mentor like that, Barack Obama should have [had] trouble getting a security clearance for a standard, entry-level government job. Instead, Americans elected him right into the Oval Office."  In fact, "never before in the entire 200-plus year [presidential] history of this country, have we had a president with a mentor who was a card carrying member of the Communist Party."
    Thus, Obama has been "influenced, surrounded, and backed by communists, socialists, and those sympathetic to the Arab/Palestinian cause in the Middle East," as well as being involved in the "middle of two international communist networks -- one in Hawaii and one in Chicago."
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    @O_S_Thomas Opposition to the American way of life, what we hold dear, and our values, which is your Obama in a nutshell. Everything he is for, I am against, everything he is against, I am for, you know, like working people, decent lifestyles, the Bill of Rights, our constitution, not funding and arming terrorists, helping our citizens first before blowing 100 million promoting homosexuality in Africa, plus all the other foregn giveaways of our dollars, ethics, honesty, fair dealing, and the rest of the book. How can you be so stupid as to say he is not a Muslim when in stood in front of the world and said, "We are no longer a Christian nation?" Um, yes, we are! He can speak for himself on that and himself alone. And Hussein is a clue even for the stupid.
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    I say stand your ground. If it was worth starting, go for the gold. How many times has reed blocked bills that he didn't want to come to a vote. Besides, lets just see how long we can go without all the oversized federal gubermut.
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    Hold on, the people are behind you, not the traitors and extortionist. Also, there is a lesson we can learn; how many government non-essentails can we do without, and how many bureaucrats does it take to hold down a nation with costly regulatons and licenses. Wait for the improvements!
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    I agree there is a lesson to be learned. Us voters are dum basses. The whole lot in D.C. needs to go and we need 535 volunteers to clean up their crap.
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    Republicans will reap the consequences in 2014 and the Democrats will predictably lead this nation down a perilous path. Way to go Teabaggers!
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  • #56
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    Yeah! Boehner's showing some spine! Sometimes you've just got to do the right thing, and ObamaCare, and the bloated Federal Government, is NOT the right thing.
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    I am getting ready to start marching in front of Issa's office in Vista, CA to suggest to the SOB that if he is going to cost the salaries of others, he should forego his own salary during the shutdown.
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    Pus filled anal cysts are cleaner than anything in or out of that frat house. My apologies if anyone is having a snack!
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    Delaying the inevitable is not optimal for the GOP's future.

    Mr Boehner risks serious damage to the brand if the recalcitrance of the Tea Party purists slops over to the debt ceiling. The prospects for retaking the Senate look awfully dim if the USA's credit rating is downgraded for the second time under a Republican-controlled House.
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    The GOP is dying. The Tea Party is like a cancer that is slowly killing the party. Each and every tumor like Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Steve Stockman, Louie Gohmert, Michelle Bachmann and the like weakens the body. They killed off almost all of the healthy cells (moderate republicans) and are going through the deterioration that marks the beginning of the end. It is highly unlikely that they will be able to win another national election in the foreseeable future. The most humane thing would be for the party to disband and the sane conservatives start a fresh new party without the kooks, bigots, homophobes, bible thumpers and racists.
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    @Hillofbeans We had that "nationwide vote on the ACA". Three years ago. It passed and was signed into law. In the meantime it has been upheld by the Supreme Court.

    As I have pointed out with stultifying regularity, there is a time-tested and effective way to reverse the ACA - win some elections, take over the Senate and the White House, do a repeal.
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    @DARSB No, we had an election for politicians, and getting elected had nothing to with ACA. That is a common misconception, and is why Obama is now the least popular president in history, along with Congress.
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    @DARSB
    I don't believe it was voted on by the House, but was (Deemed Passed) a trick move by Nancy, so that no body had to have their name on the ACA bill.
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    I don't see my district rep on that list of Republicans. Here comes another email, Mr. Rohrabacher. Why aren't you lambasting those who are holding things up?
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    Just wrote my teabag representative Greg Walden - He's still not on the list either. I hope to make him pay in 2014.
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    @PNWest - Good luck with that. Rohrabacher is pretty well entrenched here "behind the Orange curtain." The district in which I currently reside is very affluent, white, and Republican. My son refers to this neighborhood as "Leave it to Beaver Land."
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    Unfortunately Walden is even more firmly entrenched. However the democrats are getting more powerful and maybe, just maybe we can get rid of him in a couple of years. Ya never know.
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    Its such a shame that Boehner is such a weakling. I bet he doesn't even want to be speaker anymore. He cant lead his own party, and his wimpiness means he is incapable of actually getting a deal done!
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    @FFS- We see it that way, but after following the link in post 156, i realize that to the Repubs, he looks like a hero . . . .
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    Doesn't it make anyone angry that Obama has ordered the 'shut down' of National Monuments that are open park areas, with no fences, and no admission fees, that are normally open 24/7 with no NPS staff? Does it make anyone angry that Obama ordered the shut down of a PRIVATELY FUNDED National Park that hasn't had to close for 40 YEARS, and sent in armed NPS Law Enforcement to send home the all volunteer and privately paid staff? Obama is acting like a 3rd grader who doesn't want to share marbles, and they are OUR marbles! Boehner, stand strong. This has gone way beyond ObamaCare. The point now is whether our nation succumbs to dictatorship or not.
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    factionalism!!! if a majority of the house will vote to end the shut down a responsible speaker would put country before country and hold lthe vote. its not about your party or the highway. and to thing this moral midget, lunpatriotic jamoke is only 2 lives away from becoming president!! Is anyone else as soul sick about what this country has become as I am.
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    It's up to 20 now Dr. Mary. The number keeps growing and growing. All pretense that this is doing what the American people want has been shredded. There in no excuse to causing this much damage to the country.

    Mr. Boehner do your duty - put the clean bill up for a vote.

    End this nonsense now.

    Didn't @drpeeper tell you that Harry Reid had already caved?
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    He needs to do what the majority of republicans will support and that number is 117 out of the 232 republicans in the house. So if your talking about 20 he has a long ways to go.
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    @fscott777 I thought he claimed that they were representing America. That's 217 votes regardless of party. There are 200 democratic votes and at least 20 committed republican ones. That's a majority. Unless Boehner want to come out and admit that he isn't doing this for the country, he's doing it for the republican party regardless of how bad it hurts the country.

    Children with cancer not getting needed treatment - This is what you get when you vote (R)
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    In a more balance web site, the no vote would not have reached 41%. The Majority of American's believe this whole escapade of the extreme right was a travesty....
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    There is a much larger percentage of hard core righties here on Politix than there are in the general population. The conservative side always gets higher numbers on polls.

    For a few giggles maybe we could get @politixmary to post a poll on who deserved credit for taking out Osama bin Laden. Obama, Bush or Romney. You game Dr. Mary?
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    and I would like to add a message to Dr. Mary....I have yet to see one photo on Politix of President Obama in a suit and Presidential role....it is always some photo oops shot....you would think that they would make at least a nod toward an unbiased stand.....

    There are a few right wingers who have decided they want to take out boycott of me....that really really worries me.....a bunch of tea baggers that don't want to discuss the issues....fine, I have no desire to be sweet. I am old enough to remember a time when the majority of these extremists didn't have a seat at the table and I want to live long enough to see their butts back on the street.
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    Ronald Reagan would have had nothing to do with the right wing extremists of today....one just has to look at a number of positions he took regarding negotiation on the deficit , guns and the so called entitlement programs....today we have in our midst...out and out political right wing facists perfectly prepared to drive the economy into a mountain wall so that can turn around and say 'see what the lefties made us do".
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    @alexpinca
    Yes! The pictures of President Obama are not the most flattering.
    And the one in the article of VP Biden was an absolute disgrace !!! Pandering to a mostly Repub readership by picking that particular Biden photo shows poor judgement.
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    just got difficult to demand reopening with a clean CR...Bravo to all parties if instead of like last time they can actually get a deal done. As much as I know this is hurting so many people ATM...I do not want to be back here in a few months...So I say go for the grand bargin
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    One can hope democracy happens. But if they do not try that is a sad Day in America. But I can add I believe adding an amendment to the constitution would help get past this in the future ..and that would be 1/4 of every political party must vote yes on any bill before it can go to the president to be signed into a spending bill or law. That would stop most of the partisanship that is happening now and open communications and debates.
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