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  • #51
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    @WasteWater lol are you serious you believe that bs the "bankers" are telling you. Just keep paying your taxes and be a good servant
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    Of all the right-wing arguments (perhaps with the sole exception of the fiction a fetus is a poerson) this is the stupidest: Your grandkids can pay their taxes like everybody else and they deserve no special privileges.
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    @drpeeper You have no right to say that after the last President your party elected wasted gazillions on two unnecessary wars.

    "Government greed," my ASS! The waste you right-wingers advocate with your subsidies to defense contractors makes the pittance a welfare mom gets a drop in the bucket indeed.
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    Same old story, wash, rinse repeat.....must be nice to support the same thing over and over again and expect a different and better result.....by definition insanity.....
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    @Knightkore Yes sir. It's like sticking your finger in a light socket multiple times and expecting not to get shocked each time you do it. I'm actually shocked people are not abandoning both parties in mass.
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    It's a shit deal for everyone. We had a chance to make some real cuts to spending but now it's right back to spending more than me make.
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    @Knightkore If we could just get the majority of the nation to realize there are different parties that represent their views better be it conservative or liberal or something between the two . The two major parties need to go .
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    Kicking the can yet again is no solution.These fools consider this the only option instead of an all out collapse of our economy of wich both sides have brought upon us.Even the GAO recognizes the current level and that to come is impossible to recover from.Let it happen now and we pay the price instead of the next generation.Its the only way those in the future will have a chance to live the dream that present voters and elected officials have turned into a nightmare.
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    That's always the case no matter who is in power.

    As one of those Founders said, each generation must pay its own debt during its own existence, assuring no debt left for following generations. Otherwise each new generation is doing nothing but paying for the dead with nothing for themselves, or less and less.
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    @WMCOL It's one thing to have a few billion in debt...but 17 trillion is really fucking them bad...unto the generation after the next, and the next after that one...and so on!
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    @BravoJuliet
    Doesn't matter how much it is each generation must pay their debt during there existence.

    Debt will continue to increase because the population continues to increase and folks live longer. From Reagan forward all debt should have been paid. When Obama took office there should not have been 13-trillion debt but it was. There should not be near $4-trillion debt on Obama watch, but it is.

    Population has increased by nearly 20-million since Obama took office.
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    Damn. So much for my plans to raid the local pharmacy during the riots. And what am going to do with all these water purification tablets and gas masks now?! This sucks!
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    @truthsayer - Awesome. That should give me enough time to get the M777 Howitzer ordered and mounted to the roof of my 1978 AMC Pacer.
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    As Senator McConnell took pains to explain this morning, thanks to the Budget Control Act, government spending has dropped two years in a row, the first time since the Korean War.
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    @DARSB If you personally spent 3 million dollars you didn't have, the past 5 years. Then the past two years you 'only' spend 2.8 million you don't have- that's good news? LOL.

    Of course- they are still complaining about the sequester. yawn
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    I knew it. Did anyone really think the end of the world was going to happen?

    These two weeks have been nothing but pure drama. It doesn't matter who got the better deal. It doesn't matter who caved and who won. The fact still stands that these idiots are completely unconcerned about this country, it's people and anything that doesn't fall in line with their party objectives.
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    I can tell the American people are still getting the shaft.

    McConnell said the deal protects sequester cuts, part of the last budget agreement.

    "It's been worth the effort," McConnell said. "Let's not understate the importance of the Budget Control Act. Preserving this law is critically important to the future of our country."

    {What Budget control? There is not a Budget. If this passes it kicks the can down another three months so the this hell can be revisted all over again. NO! EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSE NEEDS TO VOTE NO ON THIS. ALL REPUBLICANS NEED TO VOTE NO ON THIS. KICK THE RINO AND SENILE OLD COOT MCCONNELL OUT. FLOOD THE HOUSE LINES NOW!!!!! NO ON THIS CAVE IN BY A RINO. NEVER SURRENDER!!!!! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!!

    TEA PARTY REVOLUTION PART DEUX.
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    "TEA PARTY REVOLITION PART DEUX."

    As with any sequel, Die Hard 2-5, Rocky 2-6?, the first is usually the best the rest suck.

    In this case, the GOP debacle is more like Weekend at Bernie's franchise than the Stat Wars franchise.
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    Americans are doing what they do best, playing their game and we're all losing.....we get to repeat this battle in three months if it gets passed.....

    And you want this?
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    If you call kicking the can down the road so we can do the same thing early next year "winning", then you can have your "victory". In the meantime, congress will go home for a break, come back, go home for Thanksgiving, come back, go home for Christmas, come back, and start this fight all over again. Yay!
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    @CaryNickel Teahadists attempt to us Government Funding to end the ACA - LOSS

    Teahadists attempt to use the debt ceiling to demand concessions - LOSS
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    @FFS- Pork for Mitch McConnell to get senate Republicans to fold. Business as usual. There's your "win":$2.9 billion for a dam and reservoir in McConnell's home state...and your guys will NEVER say no to more spending.
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    AND the losers are the American people. It is imperative to cut significant spending, significantly more spending than the debt ceiling raise. Default is a better option for us if the cuts do not come.
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    Most of the government agencies like HUD, DOE, FCC, Most of EPA, Most of OSHA, all Johnny come lately operations. Almost all regulatory agencies would have their staffs cut significantly. I would totally phase out Social Security for everyone under 40, and, eliminate Medicare and ACA which is turning out to be a total financial disaster for most. Want more, I can give plenty more. I would actually reduce the Federal Government functions to those enumerated in the Constitution with any added function requiring a constitutional amendment.
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    The Republicans need to be held accountable for how much they have hurt their country. I think it will be better in January because the intelligent people in the Republican party have realized how badly this made them look and I think they will be all for avoiding this sort of thing in the future. They need to repair their reputation before next years elections and continuing with this nonsense will only ensure democratic victories.
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    "We're going to do everything we can to change the atmosphere in the Senate, and accomplish something for the country," Reid said.

    Talk about a shovel ready comment. This one liner is filled with so much stink it should be labelled as a hazmat hazard.....worse than any gas that President Hussein Obama claimed was used in Syria.....
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    Hmmm. can you connect the dots on that one? It seems he's just calling for civility. allowing government by blackmail, and electing those who are unprincipled enough to do it, has made us a world laughingstock.

    When President Johnson got his Great society going, Barry Goldwater did not threaten to shut down the government. He got some pork for Arizona and his beloved Air Force, made some speeches here and there, and was civil all the time. The difference between a man of honor like Goldwater and a narcissist like Cruz could fill the Grand Canyon 700 times over.
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    Regarding the debt ceiling crisis in Congress, my main focus in my comments on this Website has been aimed at Obamacare and why I believe the Republicans should let it pass. I'm retired and on Medicare. From what I've seen in the dismantling of an effective system for the past few years or perhaps longer, is that fewer and fewer doctors actually belong to the Medicare system. Therefore, it is my contention that Obamacare will complete this dismantling and will actually be cheaper for the taxpayer because no one disabled or elderly will be able to use it. It will be a situation in which everyone who is disabled or of retirement age ( the biggest users of healthcare anyhow ) will be insured without having a doctor to treat them. It's ironic that I would be the one to point this out, because I have never been a firm believer in the efficacy of standard American medicine and have more often used alternative and foreign intervention on health matters; rather successfully and cheaper I might add, particularly the foreign variety and have not used Medicare half as much as most people of my age. But money issues are forcing me to look at my last resort now and the picture I'm viewing is bleak no matter which side wins the fight.
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    So it will take democrats vote in the house controlled by republicans to pass.Remember that when the pay day comes for their ignorance and their digging the hole deeper for all.Explain that to your children and grandchildren one day soon.
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    AHHH Victory is so sweeeet ! Another win for Obama and another failure for the republicans.I love it ! If it seems like i'm throwing this in your right wing faces it's because I AM ! HA HA !
  • #63
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    Gloating's good. Elections have consequences. Those who favored continued white and male privilege lost and there are consequences.
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    The plan would not include any provision relating to the ObamaCare medical device tax, as prior plans did; instead it would include a single provision meant to verify the income of those receiving ObamaCare subsidies.

    House conservatives may catch a break with the new deal. They get to vote no on the plan, and they don't have to have the weight of a default crisis hanging on them as a consequence.
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