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    Wow, just wow. This is how people die...from irresponsible people. Oh wait a second....this irresponsible person is a member of Congress, now im not shocked.
  • #137
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    Did you bother to read the article? It wasn't her gun and she didn't leave it out. Heaven forbid if we actually blame the person that committed the crime.
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    @Medicinebow - " North Carolina Congresswoman Renee Ellmers (R) has lost her AR-15. It was last seen leaning against a gun safe in her unlocked garage."

    Apparently you can't read.
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    @Medicinebow
    Shhh don't bother trying to explain it to them. They simply saw congressman, R, and unsecured AR15 and went straight into a frenzy.

    Now let's see if a woman is raped because she is drunk, provocatively dressed, and in the wrong part of town alone in the wee hours of the morning and you mention these facts, you are blaming the victim.

    If you take a small example such as a group of black males torturing and raping a woman for hours and make any notion that this is an issue you are labeled racist.

    Yet here we have an article where a congresswoman had a son who left a weapon out in an unlocked garage (the garage was closed it sounds like) and some low life stole it and yet all these yokels are claiming it was her AR15 and that she is responsible for it being stolen and they are taking this one instance and extrapolating it saying this is the typical gun owner. If that isn't the definition of being a hypocrite then I don't know what is.
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    What if someone steals your car and crashes with it and hurts someone? Should you be held criminally responsible because you left the keys in it?
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    What yourself there, I have stated much the same thing and have been lambasted. Don't you realize the fault lies 100% with the crook? The gun and the gun owner had nothing to do with it!
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    @Btmoody if you leave the door open with keys in ignition, running? Yes. To be specific-misdemeanor criminal charges but substantial civil liability. Secure your weapons!
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    @Btmoody - The insurance companies will certainly treat it that way. Civil action could certainly be taken. Criminal charges depend on the local laws.
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    Even though it's not an assault rifle she does need to lock up her guns. I keep one out of the safe too but I keep it in reaching distance all the time. I don't leave it in the garage.
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    Keep all mine in a gun cabinet with a safety cable going through em. I'm not that worried about someone getting in. I own a dog.
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    I thought you said you are a responsible gun owner. Do you bring the gun with you when you shower? Do you lock it up every single night without fail before you go to sleep?
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    Yea I agree. If your going to leave a gun out for protection the garage doesn't make much sense,(although the authors "I did an internet search" was one of the dumbest things I've read on here) but then again I have a hard time faulting someone because someone broke in to their home and robbed them. I know it's completely different but if someone breaks into your home and steals your tv I'm not gonna be like oh you didn't chain your tv down in your living room your an idiot.
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    It's a difficult thing for any human to be perfect. I don't trust people and guns together because this is what happens thousands of times per year. It's always the other guy who will be the problem, irresponsible one, says the person fighting tooth and nail for their absolute gun rights.
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    more people are killed or are injured due to irresponsibility behind the wheel of a car. Do you have less trust in licensed drivers than gun owners?
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    Nice retort, but completely irrelavant to the discussion. Russel made the comment "I don't trust people and guns together because this is what happens thousands of times per year. " I was merely pointing out that irresponsible or accidental behavior among licensed drivers kill and maim far more innocent people every year than careless behavior by legal gun owners. I was just curious if his distrust of drivers was proportionally greater than gun owners.

    I can tell by your flippant response that you have an irrational fear of guns too.
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    @FordPrefect i asked: do you drive your gun to work?

    I did not ask: does your gun accompany you to work?

    Guns cannot be driven, they have no wheels and most of them are to small to even sit on even if you are at the top of a suitably steep hill.
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    I got hammered for criticizing this irresponsible republican congresswoman yesterday. Tough. She is irresponsible and a perfect example of the kind of people that the NRA supports. Because of Renee Ellmers there is another criminal running around with a semi-automatic assault rifle - Great job Renee!

    Renee Ellmers aligns herself with the Tea Party.
    Renee Ellmers received support from the NRA and other pro gun groups.
    Renee Ellmers either kept or allowed someone to keep an AR-15 in her house.
    Renee Ellmers or one of her family left the gun in an unsafe place.
    The gun that Renee Ellmers allowed allowed someone to keep in her house got stolen.

    "Her family is very big on gun safety and she wants to get to the bottom of this herself," said Ellmers' spokesman.- Yeah right.

    Her house. Her gun. Her responsibility.

    NRA endorsed Renee Ellmers is what you get when you vote (R).
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    You post three seperate comments indicating the gun may not have been hers then say it was her's and she's responsible? Nice job, what did I tell you, laughs all the way around.
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    @WoodyKC Pretty freakin' sad when the best argument you can make in the congresswoman's defense is that maybe it wasn't her gun.

    The facts:

    The gun was in her house.

    She's the one putting herself forward as a responsible gun owner representing NRA values.

    Responsible gun owners don't allow AR-15 to be left lying around for someone to steal.

    This congresswoman is as much of a responsible gun owner as little Adam Lanza's mother was.
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    @PNWest
    I believe her husband had been hunting, left the weapon next to the gun safe rather than putting it in the safe. She may be responsible and have a husband that is not????
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    I was going to vote you up until the last line in your post. Irresponsibility comes in all colors, including red and blue.
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    @Bill2E That quip reminded me of the scene from Distinguished Gentlemen where they went duck hunting with the lobbying AR manufacturers using AR's.

    It and the movie The Campaign are two movies people should see and it's really a shame Will Ferrel couldn't restrain himself enough to eliminate the vulgarity and age-inappropriate content so that parents could comfortably sit down and take in the excellent message with their kids.
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    Lets just blame the gun owner and excuse the theif. Stupid idiots. Its not like she hung a sign outside her home garage saying unlocked any low life theif cime in in a take my AR-15. If I want to leave a gun out thats my business. Piss and moan all you want then go blow a goat idiots.
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    Sorry I don't agree and I have been around guns all my life. A responsible gun owner would never do such a thing. A responsible gun owner keep their guns secured and this person did not. What possible excuse can one have not to secure their gun, especially leaning against a gun safe? It is either stupidity or laziness or negligence. Gun owners like her give us other gun owners a bad name and give "ammo" to those that support gun control.
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    @Knightkore Yawn.

    Making ridiculous accusations without any fact to back them up? Excellent display of ignorance.
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    EVERY DAY, AR15s, Shotguns, Uniforms, Badges, Shotguns, Radios, ARE STOLEN FROM TAKE HOME POLICE CARS parked in their own driveways. Can you hear me now? I take it this is news because it's a Republican Congresswoman? LOL
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    @GedankPol P.S. The Congresswoman's HUSBAND'S rifle is NOT an Assault Rifle- i.e., it is NOT fully automatic. But the rifle depicted by Politix.com IS a real assault rifle. You can tell by the SEAR PIN and of course the "Auto" to the rear of the Selector Switch.'Bait and Switch' "Journalism" LOL.
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    Guns are different then cars.....if the gun had been properly stored and a thief stole it that would be different....but leaving an AR 15 in an unlocked garage is negligent.
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    @Knightkore She did leave the garage unlocked for the thieves and that alone makes me suspicious of what the real plot entails.

    We both know she has a fortress with security as good as Fort Knox. Likely an elite gated community where somebody doesn't easily slip in and out without being detected and recorded.
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    I leave my guns lying out around the house. My son's .22 rifle is probably in our garage now. That way my wife and kids can get to one quickly in case of an intruder. My house -my rules
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    I keep my guns locked for personal reasons but everyone sees the problem here as the gun owner and not the thief. We as a society should be able to leave possessions at/on/in our property and not have to worry about them being stolen. Same with any other device used in the commission of a crime - not the property owner who is responsible, it is the one breaking the law.
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    WTF is a middle aged congress woman, who can easily afford staffed protection, doing with an AR-15, an assault rifle designed for combat? Oh, never mind , I know the answer: North friggin' Carolina, the east coast version of batshit crazy Arizona....
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    The Ar-15 is not an assault rifle try again and use a little brain power and cognitive process.
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    It is not an assault rifle. It is a semi automatic rifle. Spin does not shed light on this situation and what makes anyone think she can afford staffed protection. Have you ever looked at the cost of housing in the DC area. She does not make the money of a Hilary or other elitist millionaire.
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    Not much good if you can't get to it. If you can get to it with ease, then so could the thief who breaks into your home.
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    @AceLuby You bet your ass I do. Garages can be dangerous places where people can get hurt, mine is not exception.
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  • #277
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    Yes that is the liberal mantra , They believe trespassing onto some one else's private property is allowed and should be allowed.

    They make the criminal the victim....Because if that door would have been locked the scum bag thief, wouldn't have entered....Its what they believe.
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    As a pro-gun advocate, I must admit leaving an AR-15 lying in a garage is pretty irresponsible. That being said, to what extent must a weapon be "secured" in one's own home? I don't own a gun safe and I'm sure a lot of other gun owners don't either. Granted, my guns don't lie around my house in plain sight and there are no children in my home. However, is this article suggesting that having a gun (assault or otherwise) behind the locked doors of one's own home unsecure?
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    Well my answer is "Um." Why? Because her husband is the irresponsible gun owner. He was the one who failed to put it away properly after the hunting trip. How long had it been sitting there before it was stolen?
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    I posted the story yesterday and got bashed for it too. These gun nuts all claim to be responsible gun owners but just look at them all making excuses for this irresponsible gun owner today.
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    @PNWest It's because you continue to tell the lie that the gun belonged to the congresswoman when that is not the truth. It just makes for headlines and for people like you to claim its the Tea Party's fault.
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    @Medicinebow So, the rifle's laying around in her garage, and she won't stow it safely because her name's not on the receipt? So much for responsibility. Hope she doesn't walk past campfires with those sensibilities, either.
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    So we're pointing fingers at this lady as to where she or her family members place THEIR possessions on THEIR property, yet there is no real mention of the slime ball who DID CLEARLY break the law by trespassing onto the property and committed theft.*Facepalm* Aren't we missing the point?

    And as some of the others have said, I'm one of those people who keeps a firearm handy. If an intruder makes it all the way into my bedroom, they deserve what they get!
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    Seems that scum bag thieves will just tress pass onto anyone's property, When an item of any-kind is inside your Home, It should be alright.
    However, Scumbags have no respect for some one else's property.
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