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    Well since we all originate from one descendant, and that descendant most likely lived in Africa, I would say we all have a little African in us.
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    @Knightkore - I bet you think they were white too. You can believe whatever you want religiously, but DNA doesn't lie, its a story that can't be changed.

    "Mitochondrial DNA indicates that all living humans descend from one maternal source—christened Mitochondrial Eve—who lived in Africa between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago. Similarly, the Y chromosome shows that all men have a common ancestor, Y-chromosome Adam, who lived at the same time.(Actually, both analyses indicate that modern humans descend from a small founding population of about 5000 men and an equal number of women.) The time estimates are based on assumptions on how frequently genetic mutations occur. The mutation clocks of mitochondrial DNA and the Y chromosome tick at different speeds, so the fact that they both indicate humans emerged at the same historical moment makes this evidence much more convincing."

    http://web.mit.edu/racescience/in_media/what_...
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    I think it would be fascinating to have a test like that done. But it begs the question: when John Conyers succeeds in getting his reparations law passed, if I have black DNA, do I pay reparations or receive?
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    My guess is the lawyers would divide up how much European white genetic material you have and how much sub Saharan African you have in your genetic material and the apply it to your reparations check. So basically you would still pay 86% of the total reparations fee and get a nice 14% discount if you were this lovely racist from South Dakota haha.
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    It begs another question too. It is said that one cannot be "partially black", if one has black dna, one is "black", correct? That means we cannot possibly be racists then, doesn't it? By golly, taking this to it's logical conclusion, would that then entitle us to use the "N" word? I think Paula Deen needs to have her dna checked. I would pay to watch the Food Network apologize to her.
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    @Realthinker
    If act of birth and one-drop-rule subjugates one group to second class it should be so for all so situated with that one-drop of black blood.
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    Racism = big money . Sadly more so today than 30 years ago . Only because the leftists NEED to create a larger VICTIM base . How did Jackson , Farakhan , or ex-con Sharpton become millionaires ?? Creating more racial division is their paycheck . barry hussein obama soetoro is at least half-white & his Lao father's tribe is said to be more Arabic than African . OK - no big deal , right ?? Wrong !! He always uses the race card & has actually said ,'supposedly' in his own book --'I wanted to expunge the white blood that flowed thru my veins '! Not racist ??? 20 years of a black supremist preacher that married him & supposedly baptized his children & sold hate videos !! Not racist ?? Don't simply point fingers to satisfy
    one owns agendas or beliefs . Bigotry & racism isn't a one way street - except in liberal lala land . Because they can make money from it . & garner votes .
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    I need to get me one of these DNA tests then I can start claiming minority status. Damn I could have received a scholarship!
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    Cross-pollination effected virtually everyone except the Han Chinese and perhaps a few Picts left in Scotland. My father was German, English and Irish and yet he looked like Saddam Hussein's illegitimate half-brother. If he was alive today, I guarantee you he'd be cooling his heels in a Gitmo cell just on his looks alone. I, on the other hand looked more like a Russian spy at different periods of my life and I do not have a drop of Russian blood in me that I'm aware of. Racial purity is a nice concept, it just doesn't apply very well to we Europeans.
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    @Ryunkin

    We're all mutts.

    I've traced my family back in American history to before the Revolutionary War. I lose their trail on the way over from England and Scotland. According to all the census documents I have located, all my direct descendants were white, but I didn't know them personally so I can't know for sure. Who knows what beds are ancestors found themselves in over the years.
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    @PayThatCEO Alas, part of my family only goes back to the Civil War, to a pair of draft dodgers escaping the conscription of Frederick the Great and who chose to come over here in exactly the wrong year, 1860.

    My great-great grandfather was conscripted into the Union Army and my g-g-Uncle into the Union Navy as soon as they disembarked from their ship in Philadelphia. However, I digress.

    I think most of our ( European ) mixture comes from a time that can't be traced because it predates records and most our non-Caucasian racial heritage is the result of rapes committed during times of war and the periodic enslavement of women. This is certainly the case of the Russian mixture of Tatar and Slavic or Norse blood, particularly in Ukraine where women were of short supply so the early Cossacks took them wherever they could.

    The Huns literally left their mark in middle Europe and it is purported by the Southern French that one is of Hunnish blood if one has a peculiar birthmark, I believe on the shoulder. Switzerland, Austria and Hungary were also areas that were greatly affected by the Huns.

    Warner Olin, the original Charlie Chan, wore virtually no makeup to assume the appearance of an Oriental and Warner was a Swedish citizen. A friend of mine who was Dutch with blond hair, bore the resemblance of a Oriental in his high cheekbones, broad face and slightly slanted eyes. Apparently the Chinese women saw the resemblance, he's been married to one for forty years.

    My bugbear is the European aversion to Jews. In the 14th century the German princes realized that they could no longer tell the difference between Jews and gentiles and forced Jews to wear separate clothing for identification. I've often said that if you are of continental Europeans descent, more than likely you have a Jew lurking in your closet. For god's sake, we're all Jews, or most of us are at any rate, so what's the problem?

    I personally believe that the Europeans of the North, Middle, East and West, excluding Ireland and England are mostly mixed with Mongoloids, while the south and Ireland possess Negroid influences. A little known fact: A study conducted a number of years ago in Dublin Ireland, found that 40% of the men the researchers studied showed Mediterranean characteristics, in other words, Negroid and Semitic characteristics.

    I was fascinated by this study because I am a third Irish and my ex-son-in-law is half Irish. My grandson, his son, although white in general appearance has curly hair and a butt that rivals Hank Aaron's. Trust me, my family gave up any hope of joining the Nazi Party years ago, but then Adolph Hitler himself exempted Jesus Christ and Adolph Hitler from the German laws that persecuted Jews, so there's still a chance I might be accepted.

    Watch some idiot is going to call me a racist because of that last remark.
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    @PayThatCEO

    White works in American because of assimilation, but its a pretty meaningless and useless term in the grand scheme of things. Its not even such an ethnicity, as it assumes some pan-ethnic white culture or race exist when it does not. Anymore than Asian is.

    A Russian is as genetically distinct to an italian and clusters as far away from one on any genetic map as he would an Arab. Europeans are some homogeneous pan-ethnic people. Racially a Brit ultimately has nothing to do with a Greek or Balkan. So being multiple European ethnicities makes you just as much a mutt not just being something you consider "non-white".
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    Meh. Racists are foolish to start with, and the foolishness can take many forms. Hitler believed he was a quarter Jewish.
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    If Hitler knew that he was part Jewish. He would NOT have done what he did. To him, ALL Jews needed to die. Even those who were only part Jewish...
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    "Racists are foolish to start with, and the foolishness can take many forms." Yup. There are many forms of ignorant prejudices.
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    @Elialia Don't count on it. We've seen plenty of secretly gay politicians who fought tooth-and-nail to pass laws that oppress gay people. That's for sure, since more than one eventually came out of the closet, apologized, and tried to make amends. Secret shame often leads to acting out against other people who are perceived as sharing the "fault."
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    My question is what IS 14% of someone's DNA? How far back on the genealogical tree does that go? Does this guy have an ancestor from the Civil War era that had a relationship with a slave? How many limbs on the genealogical tree does this DNA encompass? Cousins? Second, third, fourth cousins? And how did the host of the show know his DNA would reveal African ancestry? Do all white people possess 14% African DNA?

    It doesn't matter to me one way or the other, I'm just curious about the methods and genealogy behind this.
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    I think it's funny. Now what is he going to do. I think probably cling to that majority of European heritage. When I was adopted we just thought I was Hispanic and white though the first pictures of me at 13 months old shows the black curly hair and other attributes of being somewhat black, just with lighter skin. When St. Jude Children's Hospital did a genetic break down on me for research purposes in my early twenties because my son's had a very rare genetic illness, we found out that I was 1/2 black, 1/4 native Hispanic and 1/4 caucasian. I wasn't that surprised. Native Hispanic meant that the 1/4 was not blood mixed with any blood mixture of any other race that went to that area in history. It was most likely pure Incan blood. That race won out on how me and my sons looked. Not the 1/2 African black or the 1/4 white European. None of my family or friends or me were racist to begin with. It didn't affect my life at all. My husband who is white, Irish and German, thinks my mixed race is what made our daughter so beautiful as well as my son's. He says me too. When I was younger, definitely! I got nicknamed the black haired Barbie a few different times. Thank you mixed race for making my family so beautiful and we also are very smart!
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    How would African American groups like to be forced to hire White Supremacist? This is what Liberals want us all to do for Gays. They will not admit this but it is their goal that Churches will be forced to hire gay Sunday school teachers, & other leadership roles.
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