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    I use the e-cigarette and regular cigarettes. I'm fazing out the regular smokes and I'm at that point in smoking them where each actual cigarette gets me a little high. I haven't experienced that in about ten years. Soon I'll be off them completely. But I do plan to continue using the e-cigs. I enjoy and have always enjoyed being a smoker but the increased risk of hundreds of diseases just isn't something I look for in a cigarette. With nothing but nicotine and (apparently) no chance of cancer or lung disease, I feel good about puffing away at an e-cig.
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    How the hell does smoking an e-cigarette hurt other people. This is nothing more than in your face government and it needs to stop. If folks would spend more time minding their own business and not sticking the busy body nose into everyone else' this world just might be a much better place.
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    I'm with you, too. I'm trying to get my son to make that gradual switch to e-cigs, but if cities start banning those in public, too, what's are we supposed to do to stop the damage of this physical addiction?
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    @Denizen_Kate No Kate, actually some tobacco companies are getting into to the business. There most be potential In a future market. Remember, nicotine does contribute to weight lose.
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    Another win for the "nanny state" this is absurd to say the least. Let me get this straight, they are legalizing marijuana in two states, but outlaw something that doesn't affect anyone else. Yeah, ok, tell me again how the government knows better? SMH
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    I will say this to all of us, Conservatives, Liberals, Independents and the freeloaders.
    We all best watch what we petition government to do in our best interest. It is and it will come back to bite us.
  • #59
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    Seriously. Why aren't they putting a ban on automobiles that guzzle gas? Cars emit far more hazardous fumes than even cigarettes do. Let alone vapor. I suggest all who support a ban on e-cigarettes because of this unproven "Harmful 2nd hand vapor" should probably turn their computers off right now. Your houses are most commonly powered by coal power. This emits some pretty toxic fumes in the air, and I don't need your wasteful silly lifestyle threatening my life.
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    In June of 2011, I tried my first e-cig on a Wednesday and liked it. I decided I'd purchase one the following weekend. I ran out of cigarettes the following Saturday on my way to the e-cig store. I haven't had a cigarette since. In June of 2013, I decided to stop vaping. July 15 was my last puff on the e-cig. I can honestly say that if I were still using e-cigs, I wouldn't give a flip about Bloomberg's ban. I could vape in a crowd an nobody would ever know. NONE of you control freaks can stop a person from vaping if he or she is good at it. You can't smell it, and many of us are slick enough about it that you'll never see us do it either. Ban it all you want to...Those who just want to vape will do so anyway. You'll only see the vapers who are interested in arguing with you...The rest will be quietly doing their thing, and there's not sh*t you can do about it! Have a nice day!
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    That stuff is not harmless 'vape'. It's basically the same stuff they use in fog machines laced with nicotine. There are still a lot of unknown questions about directly inhaling it with a carcinogen enhancer like nicotine. I'm glad you quit though, you're the first person I've heard of who made the transition like that. I've been 5 years smoke free myself and it's liberating to not have that addiction.
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    You are so right about the liberation that comes with not being chained to that pack (or that battery, for that matter!) I will say that most people who transition to e-cigs have no intention of quitting them because, well, frankly, there's no real need to. There's no bad smell, no ashes, no ill health effects (that we know of) and they cost a fraction of what it costs to smoke cigarettes. My decision to quit was based on the unknown; I agree that more research is needed to determine if there are health related dangers. I stood by my right to smoke them because there is no way anyone can control what is in the air we all breathe. There is exhaust from automobiles, factories, airplanes, and who knows what clandestine government operation that none of us will ever know about. My e-cig paled by comparison...And I have to admit as a former smoker, I was really tired of being pushed around. Going around a corner in a banned zone and puffing away on my e-cig was a nice way to stick it to "the man!"
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    Boy, New York is starting to sound more like "Prison City" with a high priced commissary to me...voting for idiots has consequences!
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    I see two posters so far with no clue about e-cig content but they gotta stand by their 'maybe' premise. Boys, if ya got proof that e-cigs are bad, then post it.

    I won't hold my breath waiting.
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    http://www.medicaldiscoverynews.com/shows/264...

    A study published in Indoor Air from the Fraunhofer Wilhelm-Klauditz-Institut in Germany examined secondhand emissions from several e-cigarettes in a human exposure chamber. Each e-cigarette was puffed 6 times and data were collected for a conventional cigarette, also puffed 6 times.

    While the e-cigarette produced lower levels of toxins in the air for nonsmokers to breathe than the conventional cigarette, there were still elevated levels of acetic acid, acetone, isoprene, formaldehyde and acetaldehyde, averaging around 20% of what the conventional cigarette put into the air.

    Thus, while not as polluting as a conventional cigarette, the e-cigarettes are putting detectable levels of several significant carcinogens and toxins in the air.
    http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/e-cigarettes-release-...
  • #99
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    @Cincinnatus Well, that was a tour of unclarity. I followed through to responses and links.
    "Could be." "Possibly." "You can't use those Standards." "As compared to."

    Sheesh.If you cherry pick you can make an argument, I suppose. Wouldn't call it an overly effective argument because we're right back to "we don't know."
  • #108
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    @justapirate

    "Boys, if ya got proof that e-cigs are bad, then post it."

    I knew when I replied that whatever I posted would be deemed inadequate.
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    @Cincinnatus It's because your links WEREN'T adequate. As I said, useful only for cherry picking. I spent another hour following the additional links and got - uh, maybe.

    That isn't proof in anyone's book.
  • #117
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    @justapirate

    My personal burden of 'proof' is met when I decide that I wouldn't want to be in a room where people were using e-cigs.
    I've looked enough places, and I've seen enough BS from companies that put profit ahead of public safety over the years that I sense that there is a reasonably high probability that some harmful effects will be brought to the attention of the public.
    At some point in the future.

    But just to give you a little of my perspective, I don't use any drugs that haven't been in common use for ten years or more.
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    NYC is starting to seem like the fading dowager who keeps crying about the sky falling -- banning anything possible just to get some attention. Are e-cigs better than inhaling burning leaves 200 times a day. Yeah, very likely. So shaddup!
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    It's possible, but there is very little science to back up that claim. The long term effects of inhaling fog machine vapor laced with a carcinogen enhancer like nicotine has never been studied. Could it be safer? Sure. Could it have terrible long term reprocussions? Absolutely.
  • #123
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    Couldn't help but notice that E-Cigs have been around for about a decade, slowly creeping across the landscape, but have yet to have any genuine scientific study. In fact, they were on sale at every corner store before cities and towns even had regulations for all that. Ah well, roll the dice and take yer chances -- from my end it's still better than inhaling burning leaves 200 times a day and being short of breath at to top of the stairs.
  • #124
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    @BillsCatz From my end it's still worse than not putting nicotine and who knows what chemicals in your body at all. It's literally trying to put the 'cool' back into smoking again. Have you seen the recent commercials? Ridiculous.
  • #42
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    I like my eCigs. I quit regular cigs a long time ago thanks to them. Nothing wrong with weaning yourself off regular tobacco cigarettes by way of vaping instead.
  • #103
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    They aren't banning exercise or good eating, smoking ecigs is not a good habit. It may be better than smoking cigarettes, but there hasn't been enough long term studies to even make that claim. Nicotine is a deadly and extremely addictive drug that has been shown to be a carcinogen enhancer.
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    @Cincinnatus um the article suggests they are dangerous to the user. So is downhill skiing or a steady diet of fatty foods. What's your point?
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    @j2saret

    There is also exhaled and side stream vapor containing nicotine at least, and who knows what else.
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    @Cincinnatus possibly but your article does not state that. Are suggesting a retail rule of all that is not specifically permitted is forbidden?
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  • #132
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    E-cigarettes are just crutches that prolong the nicotine addiction to keep smokers chained to the tobacco industry.

    I find it confounding when I hear people professing that smoking is about being "free" to do what you want and that smokers can use e-cigarettes to "take back their freedom" in light of the inescapable fact that every smoker is enslaved to the Nicotine.

    You are a drug addict!

    There is no "freedom" in addiction, so just sack up already and just quit cold turkey, then you'll truly find the "freedom" you're seeking.
  • #131
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    If the simple sight of the vapor is the primary concern [which I don't think it actually is], then we have 2 choices...
    1. Practice stealth vaping, or master a vaping method that doesn't release visible vapor.
    2. Create a new product, or a convertible adaptor, that filters, or disguises, or eliminates the vapor entirely for public use. That way it won't shock the sensitive fools so bad.

    For the record, I do number 1 already and it seems to help a lot. Reduces confusion and lowers the shock factor. People still see a device hanging around my neck, but as long as I don't show off with the vapor, then it's pretty much ignored. It appears that courtesy is admired and shows respect. I know, I know, it's sad we have to help blanket childish ignorance, but look at it this way... You can feel good about being a public ignorance babysitter.
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